On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 07:41:47PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Christopher Nelson wrote:
> > The same reason you should pay taxes for roads you don't drive
> > on--because at all stages of life having an educated workforce benifits
> > you, just as it benifits you for people (eg utility companies) to drive
> > on roads you particularly don't use.  Or would you rather not pay your
> > doctor to pass high school anatomy and biology?
> 
>     That's all well and good except for one problem.  I can tell when the
> roads aren't working.  My suspension goes to hell.  I can convince other
> people of the same by pointing to my crappy suspension.
> 
>     I also can tell when the public school system isn't working.  But help me
> if I try to convince others of that!  The key word here is an educated public
> is a benefit.  I do not believe that is what public schooling is offering in
> the least.  As one poster said they believed they are educated in spite of the
> public school system.  I believe the same thing.

I believe I was educated through the public school system.  Apparently
we inherently differ on the quality of schooling that goes on, so more
words would accomplish little.
 
> > As to the free--I don't plan on having children before I can afford
> > them, but that doesn't help the middle class who can't afford most 
> > private schools (the ones I've seen advertised aren't cheap), but
> > can otherwise afford to raise children in a decent environment.  Do you
> > purport that you must be wealthy to raise children, or just well enough
> > off?
> 
>     You're also pricing against a limited market.  If the market were more
> open then prices would fall as more would enter the market.  On the flip side
> if the parents aren't paying for public schooling via taxes one would presume
> the money they save there could be applied to private schooling?

It could be, but a more salient question might be, would it be applied
to private schooling?  There are people I know who despite the evidence
they should, don't spend in retirement funds, etc., and probably would
buy an extra case of beer instead of paying their kid's tuition.

>     BTW, just curious, have you compared private schooling to public schooling
> when it comes to cost per pupil?  The last time I checked (Sacramento, late
> 90s) private schooling was cheaper per pupil.

I have looked at private school costs in curiosity, but never really in
the cost of public schools per pupil.  Care to point me to where I could
find that statistic? (I'm in California now, so the same type place
you looked should work)

> > Sure you can.  Nothing's forcing you to have your kids in public
> > schools.  And shopping around for a good public school district is part
> > of being a responsible parent if you can't afford/don't like private
> > school.
> 
>     A good public school district.  Which implies one can purchase a home in a
> good district.  Or do you believe only the wealthy can obtain a decent
> education for their children?

I lived in a good public school district with cheap housing, albeit in
Kentucky where everything's cheaper, but it was still not one of the more
expensive places we could have lived there.

> > Plus, she was blatantly violating the schools policy (based on
> > the secretary of the Department of Education) that you cannot teach
> > religious tenets as matters of fact in the public school system.
> 
>     Now if we could only get political beliefs out of the school system and
> get back to basics.

I feel like I'm missing the point, but in case it's teaching political
tenets as fact: on that I think we squarely agree.  I've not heard people
complaining about it, but it would be equally as reprehensible as
religion

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