in traveling the course to solve a "can't connect adjacent boxes without first jumping outside the local netgroup" problem, i ran across a situation that seems to merit comment--
i've solved the original problem i had, which was that i couldn't ssh from A to C (nor vice-versa) but i could ssh from either A or C to an outside box B, and then back in to the target computer (C or A). A 10.1.1.1 local LAN B 10.10.10.10 way the heck Out There C 10.1.1.5 local LAN the error was: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ssh 10.1.1.5 ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host vice-versa (from C to A): [EMAIL PROTECTED] ssh 10.1.1.1 ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host A and C are on a subnet (29 bits as in 255.255.255.248) which B is not a member of, if that's important. there's also a firewall [clarkconnect.org] as one of the nodes on the subnet (but neither A nor C are behind the firewall). the obstruction was in fact /etc/hosts.deny and /etc/hosts.allow, which contained basically just one line: ALL : PARANOID : deny which makes any incoming connection whose reported hostname that does NOT jibe with the looked-up hostname, die because of paranoiac security restrictions. since dns is overkill for such a small group, my connect attempts showed up as "paranoid-style-reject" based on the hosts.deny instruction. as it should have. (once i found "ssh -v" my debug time shortened considerably!) === here's the snag: i tried adding ALL : 10.1.1.1/29 : allow and it didn't work, of course, because as the documentation says, you use net.net.net.net/mask.mask.mask.mask not net.net.net.net/bits as i'd hoped. fine. ALL : 10.1.1.1/255.255.255.248 : allow this STILL REJECTED ALL LEGIT ATTEMPTS! from 10.1.1.0 to 10.1.1.8, all connection attempts were denied! (both in practice and as predicted via tcpdmatch.) so i changed it to ALL : /etc/hosts.local.allow : allow and added the IP's to /etc/hosts.local.allow such as 10.1.1.1 10.1.1.2 10.1.1.3 10.1.1.4 10.1.1.5 10.1.1.6 10.1.1.7 and THAT worked. unless i seriously misread the docs, tho, shouldn't N.N.N.N/M.M.M.M work as above? -- I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0-bunk-1; Linux server 2.4.20-k6 #1 Mon Jan 13 23:49:14 EST 2003 i586 unknown DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #96 from Joost Kooij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : Did you know that you can SWITCH BETWEEN VIRTUAL CONSOLES using leftalt+cursor{left,right}? To change from vc4 to vc5, press alt-cursorright. Going back to X from vc1 is as simple as alt-cursorleft. (It doesn't work when you're already within X11, though -- but control-alt-F1 does.) Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]