On Sunday 12 March 2006 16:24, Tim Connors wrote: > Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Sun, 12 Mar 2006 14:31:39 -0500: > > In this case, there could be other solutions. For example, where > > do people get the list address? If they find it on Debian web > > pages, it would be possible to set up a form with a CGI script to > > allow submitting an e-mail without being a subscriber and the CGI > > script could include a spam filter. It would also be possible to > > add to the mail list manager a routine that detects e-mail from > > non-subscribers. I know challenge-response tactics aren't always > > popular, but something like that could be set up so a newbie can > > ask a question without joining and crap is still filtered. It > > seems to me a > > challenge-response request is a fair price to pay if one wants help > > but does not want to subscribe. Or a general spam filter could be > > used so email from non subscribers is at least checked for valid > > respond to addresses and other anomalies. > > That all sounds rather unnecessary.
Just huckleberrying. As I said, don't bother to pick it apart, my point was that there were other ways to do it, not that this one way was what should be done. > Why not just run a spam filter on the input to the list like so many > other lists do? Anything detected as spam goes to a (voluntary) > moderator team to be approved/declined. Open list, no challenge > response each time the email address of the sender changes, and > there's not *that* much spam for a moderator team to deal with. If it works, fine with me. > And all this discussion is strange anyway. I just looked through the > only debian list I subscribe to -- debian-laptop. It ends up in a > single folder in my mail -- anything that has a debian list header > attached to it ends up there, so any spam addressed to debian-laptop, > as opposed to me personally, goes through there. And I get 4 easily > detected spam/erroneous subscribe messages in one page of headers. > Since I go through the list with basically my hand on the delete key > as I watch the subject lines scroll by anyway, that causes me not > very much noticable pain. You're also using filters, and it works for many of us, but for a newbie, it might be a good while before they get to setting up filters. Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]