Hello Digby, Am 2006-02-15 14:41:07, schrieb Digby Tarvin:
> Nothing other than what was done by the normal install program. > Perhaps it is something that results from telling it that I am > located in the UK... > > What is you default locale? Systemwide: C My own: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > The 'LC_ALL=C' certainly produces the traditional format for me as it > does for you: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ LC_ALL=C ls -ld . > drwxr-xr-x 24 digbyt digbyt 2048 Feb 13 14:16 . > It appears to be a Debian locale thing, as exactly the the same locale > on my old SuSE and Gentoo systems had no undesireable side effects: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/digbyt> ls -ld . > drwxr-xr-x 50 digbyt digbyt 8192 Feb 15 14:28 . > > If it was intentional, I wonder what the resoning was? What does 'en_GB' > produce on your various Debian systems? That might tell me if there is any > other factor involved. +---[ 'stdin' ]------------------------------------------------------+ | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/] ls -ld . | | drwxrwxrwt 25 root root 4096 22. Feb 01:38 . | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/] LANG=en_GB LANGUAGE=en_GB L | | C_ALL=en_GB ls -ld . | | drwxrwxrwt 25 root root 4096 Feb 22 01:39 . | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/] LANG=en_GB LC_ALL=en_GB loc | | ale | | LANG=en_GB | | LC_CTYPE="en_GB" | | LC_NUMERIC="en_GB" | | LC_TIME="en_GB" | | LC_COLLATE="en_GB" | | LC_MONETARY="en_GB" | | LC_MESSAGES="en_GB" | | LC_PAPER="en_GB" | | LC_NAME="en_GB" | | LC_ADDRESS="en_GB" | | LC_TELEPHONE="en_GB" | | LC_MEASUREMENT="en_GB" | | LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_GB" | | LC_ALL=en_GB | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ Attention: The output format depends on $LANGUAGE like +---[ 'stdin' ]-----------------------------------------------------+ | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/] LANGUAGE=C ls -ld . | | drwxrwxrwt 25 root root 4096 Feb 22 01:52 . | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/] LANGUAGE=de_DE ls -ld . | | drwxrwxrwt 25 root root 4096 22. Feb 01:52 . | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/] LANGUAGE=en_GB ls -ld . | | drwxrwxrwt 25 root root 4096 Feb 22 01:52 . | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ and not on $LANG or $LC_* Greetings Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ ##################### Debian GNU/Linux Consultant ##################### Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/3/88452356 67100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]