On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 11:24 -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:08:22 -0500 > Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > some folks see the idea of suing bar owner or gun owners and wining > > damages as liberal justice. > > Well, I'm a bar owner, so I have to chime in ;) > > The concept of making the bar owner responsible for the actions of > patrons is interesting. There are certainly laws on the books in some > jurisdictions (US, anyway) that DO make the bar owner responsible. So > called dram-shop laws make the bar owner responsible if their patron > gets too drunk and ,for example, goes out and kills someone. In fact > there is insurance to cover such things.... > > The practical side to it is that the bar owner has to learn to strike a > balance between maintaining total, absolute control over the situation > and maintaining a fun, relaxed and hopefully profitable atmosphere. How > do you do this? Well, you set a staffing level that provides enough > surveillance without breaking the bank and hope for the best. obviously > training and policy come into play as well. The reality is that one > CANNOT plan for, nor handle, every eventuality. One must make a > reasonable, responsible effort to maintain control. In the unfortunate > event that something DOES go wrong, one must first take responsibility > for the fact that something happened. Examine internally whether > anything could have reasonably been done about it, and then either > defend oneself or accept full liability. The question there is what is > reasonable. > > This same logic applies to many other things as well, including > file-sharing and the use of peer-to-peer networks. What is a reasonable > amount of effort to prevent piracy? If one has made that reasonable > effort are they really responsible for those who find a way around > those efforts? > > Now, having jumped into the middle of a conversation about which I know > nothing... I"ll crawl back under my rock. > > A > > -- > > Wandering OT since 1970.
Nice OT. Thanks. C. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
