* Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005 Nov 18 23:37 -0600]:
> On Fri, 2005-11-18 at 18:49 -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> > * Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005 Nov 18 13:24 -0600]:
> > > On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 09:02:47AM -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> > >
> > > > I won't give you any arguments. If it is the software that you like
> > > > and
> > > > not a need for the format, then that is your choice and your right.
> > > > That's what linux is all about -- choice! I will also admit that the
> > > > reveal codes option was the greatest idea since the wheel. I used it
> > > > in
> > > > WP 5.1 a LOT, not as much in WP8, though. I wish that other word
> > > > processors would start using it, too. It seems like such an easy
> > > > thing,
> > > > I don't know why others have not picked it up.
> > >
> > > I believe it was discussed on this very list years ago for OOo. Answer:
> > > they disapprove of it.
> >
> > In a way, that's too bad. "Getting under the hood" is always a useful
> > feature. WYSIWYG is fine until what you're looking at disappears at a
> > keystroke and winds up a page down or something. Editing the codes in
> > WP was often the best way to get the layout just right, especially in
> > WP 5.1.
> >
> > > Really: the OOo developers don't want people to think in terms of
> > > formatting, but in terms of styles. So codes shouldn't matter to us.
> >
> > That sounds very much like SGML philosophy and this is precisely why a
> > reveal codes functionality would be so useful in OOo which is
> > essentially now an XML editor so one could work at the abstract style
> > level instead of layout/formatiing (maybe I need to spend more time
> > with OOo Writer as it probably already does this). I don't do much
> > heavy document editing these days so I'm not going to lose any sleep
> > over it. ;-)
>
> If you want Reveal Codes, you could always edit the XML in Vim...
Ugggh! I'll use FTE instead. ;-)
- Nate >>
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