hi ya
On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Carl Fink wrote:
> > Any information needed to make a choice should be PART OF THE PROGRAM (minus
> > very rare cases). Why make the new user go searching?
most folks, form whom you buy a pc will take care of the "headache" for
you, just like when you buy a dell/hp/ibm ..
- you get what they give you ( good or bad )
and probably not much "wiggle room" to bitch and moan that
they didn't install it ccrrectly
debian/linux gives tooo too much lattitude to fix things the "right way"
- to fix any install from a cd "PROPERLY" can take 15min or
3-5 days to properly install and harden the server if you do not
have a reference to start from and have to harden or fix it
file-by-file
- i can easily spend 3 days to fix all the known problems with
just about any any and all distro
- you either have to have the prior "install anything into any other
kitchen sink" or be willing to learn new tricks or read more docs
> Because, and read this slowly, ask mommy for help with the big words...
sometimes "grandpa" is more willing and supportive too since they don't
have other things to do
> INSTALLING AN OS ISN'T FOR NEW USERS!
not if they expect it to work "right" the first time with minimal
thinking and reading ..
> Not even Microsoft has figured it out yet. Their install is abysmal to
> use even for advanced users. That is why... again, mommy might need to help
> here....
they have the approach right ..
- you get what they give you .. no choice .. no options ..
> MOST OPERATING SYSTEMS ARE PRELOADED AND THE AVERAGE USER NEVER HAS TO GO
> THROUGH AN INSTALL!
or the upgrade or debugg unless oyuhappen to be foolish to pay dell for
their warranty and support that they do not provide other than asking you
100 pages of "did oyu do this".. "did you do that" BEFORE you get their
outsourced hired gun to show up for 5min to fix the problem in 5min that
you spent 5days on the phone with dell support and if you cahnged
anything, there is no warranty
----
with debian/linux ... you can pick and choose anything you want, but it
assume you kknow why you picked tom-dick-n-harry hardware over
mary-sall-janes better hardware combo package
if you bought something that is not supported ... oh well ...
- a common problem of wanting the fanciest
newest/greatest/cheapest stuff that may or may not work
> I repeat, if you think that installing an OS is an operation that is
> possible without sullying your prestine brain with naughty documentation
> you...are...wrong.
or if yu can find the "install solution" that owrks for all cases, you
can have more $$$ tha uncle bill ( ms ), whom would also gladly want you
to use their mostly inferior gadgets ( hw + sw ) instead of linux
c ya
alvin
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