"Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
>> Apparently I've given exim bad info, but not at all clear how to
>> tell exim to address my mail with newsguy but I'm not really
>> it... hehe.
>> 
>
> exim uses address rewriting.  You can either do this directly in the
> exim file (look at the last section) or use /etc/email-addresses.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks I read thru a little of exims documenation about rewriting.  I
showed a lot of tenacity, and didn't jump off a bridge or shoot myself
after the first paragraph.

Near as I can tell, the whole section on rewriting is basically
unparsable by regular humans.  I know not one whit more after
wallowing in it for 1 1/2 hours or so.

Taking your clue and adding to this existing entry:

   # This rewriting rule is particularly useful for dialup users who
   # don't have their own domain, but could be useful for anyone.
   # It looks up the real address of all local users in a file
   
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]    ${lookup{$1}lsearch{/etc/email-addresses}\
                     {$value}fail} frFs
   
[My addition below]

    [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

With this in place, dh is no longer able to download mail from the isp
pop server.  Remove it and downloading works.

What I did to test this was, first have pop3 server working on the
debian mail hub.  I already have successfully sent mail from a windows
machine on the lan, thru the smtp outgoing debian box, to ISP smtp
machine and successfully reteived it from that same windows machine,
again thru the debian box.

So the basics are in place and working.  I didn't like the way headers
came out, not sure if it really matters, but I think it isn't rfc
compliant this way.  (I'll show and example below).

So trying the rewrite thing to correct it, seems to have thrown  a
monkey wrench into retrieval, although sending still works.

With the rewrite entry in place, running fetchmail from dh account on
deb mail machine, with fetchmail -v shows mail being downloaded but in
fact it is not.  The verbose output goes by, but no actual mail
arrives.

Remove the added rewrite line and fetchmail downloads the mail fine.

Here are some sample headers, that I think are possibly wrong.  Making
no claims to rfc knowledge but I down't think hidden local machine
addresses should be showing up here.

Stats:
 1) This message was sent from a windows machine
    (satwin.local.lan 192.168.0.7)

 2) Routed thru the debian box (expi.local.lan 192.168.0.8)
    to mail.dslextreme.com (ISP smtp machine)

 3) Retrieved via fetchmail on expi 192.168.0.8 (debian machine)
    to /var/mail/dh from mail.dslextreme.com (pop server)

 4) Retrieved from there by the windows machine mail client on 
    satwin (192.168.0.7)   

dslextreme.com is my ISPs' domain

Starting with the Received header furtherest down in the message 
as 1.  I see seven places where my local private network addresses are
shown.

I'm no rfc expert or even apprentice, but I don't think my local lan
addresses should be present on internet mail.  These are not legal
addresses, in the sense they can be tracerouted or pinged.

Far as I have heard, those addresses should not leak out onto the
internet, where they may be taken for legal (domain owned) addresses.


Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Note: 7 local address shown]
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] ident=dh)
        by expi.local.lan with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian))
        id 16mgNO-0000y4-02
        for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:31:30 -0800

Received: from mail.dslextreme.com [66.51.205.14]
        by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.9.8)
        for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (single-drop); Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:31:30 -0800 
(PST)

[Note: 6 local address shown]
Received: from expi.local.lan (adsl-66.51.210.228.dslextreme.com 
[66.51.210.228])
        by mail.dslextreme.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2HJTGCj015065
        for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:29:17 -0800

[Note: 5 local address shown]
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] ident=dh)
        by expi.local.lan with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian))
        id 16mgKc-0000xM-00
        for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:28:38 -0800

Received: from mail.dslextreme.com [66.51.205.14]
        by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.9.8)
        for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (single-drop); Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:28:38 -0800 
(PST)

[Note: 4 Local address displayed]
Received: from expi.local.lan (adsl-66.51.210.228.dslextreme.com 
[66.51.210.228])
        by mail.dslextreme.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2HJOVCj013852
        for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:24:32 -0800

[ Note: 3 Again, the local address is shown
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] ident=dh)
        by expi.local.lan with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian))
        id 16mgG1-0000wa-00
        for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:23:53 -0800
Received: from mail.dslextreme.com [66.51.205.14]
        by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.9.8)
        for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (single-drop); Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:23:53 -0800 
(PST)

[Note: 2 More local addresses]
Received: from expi.local.lan (adsl-66.51.210.228.dslextreme.com 
[66.51.210.228])
        by mail.dslextreme.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2HJNeCj013611
        for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:23:40 -0800

[Note: 1) My local network addresses are visible here]
Received: from satwin.local.lan ([192.168.0.7] helo=SATELLITE)
        by expi.local.lan with smtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian))
        id 16mgFB-0000wN-00
        for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:23:01 -0800
From: Harry Putnam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: AGENT_KEYS test.4
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:22:46 -0800
Organization: mobile
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.6/32.525
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; 
boundary="--=_Bu2UPAgUcAw5fAzwlQFD+Vlm6wKO.MFSBCHJLHS"
X-UIDL: LT~!!~5F!!@;[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: U


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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

        Keyboard Shortcuts

A great way to use Agent more efficiently and save time is to use the
available keyboard shortcuts to perform various functions.  Agent's
shortcuts (also called "accelerators" or "speed keys") are listed as
follows:

All Fields (in composition window)      Ctrl+D or Alt+D
Apply ROT13     Ctrl+3
Back Up (to previous msg.)      Backspace or Alt+LeftArrow
Cascade (windows/browsers)      Shift+F5
Check Addresses F8
Check for New Mail      Ctrl+E
Collapse All Threads    Shift- or Shift LeftArrow
Collapse Thread - or LeftArrow
Copy    Ctrl+C
Copy to Folder > All Folders    Shift+Ctrl+C
Select URL      Shift+Ctrl+U
Cut     Ctrl+X
Delete  Del
Delete Body     Ctrl+Del
Down to Next Message    D

Exit    Alt+F4
Expand All Threads      Shift+ or Shift RightArrow
Expand Thread   + or RightArrow
=46ilters > Add Kill Filter     Ctrl+K
=46ilters > Add Watch Filter    Ctrl+W
=46ind  Ctrl+F
=46ind Next     F3
=46ollow-Up Usenet Msg. F
=46orward (to next msg.)        Shift+Backspace or Alt+RightArrow
Goto Next Found Message G
Global Search   Ctrl+G
Ignore Thread   I
Index   Ctrl+I
Jump to Message URL     Ctrl+J
Keep    K
Launch Attachment       L
Launch URL      Ctrl+U
Mark for Retrieval      M

Move to Folders > All Folders   Ctrl+Shift+X
New Email Message       Ctrl+M
New Usenet Message      P
Online/Offline  Ctrl+O
Pane (Groups/Folders)   1
Pane (Message List)     2
Pane (Message)  3
Pane to Pane clockwise  Tab
Pane to Pane counter-clockwise  Shift+Tab
Paste   Ctrl+V
Paste as Quote  Ctrl+Q
Paste Signature Ctrl+I
Pick Addresses  Ctrl+K
Print   Ctrl+P
Properties      Alt+Enter
Refresh (View)  F5
Reply to All    Shift+R
Reply via Email R
Save (from Composition window)  Ctrl+S or Alt+V

Save All Attachments    A
Select All      Ctrl+A
Select/Copy URL Shift+Ctrl+U
Select View     V
Send Later (from Compos. window)        Ctrl+L or Alt+L
Send Now (from Compos. window)  Ctrl+N or Alt+S
Show All Header Fields  H
Show Full Thread        *
Show Raw Message        Ctrl+R
Single-Key Read Space
Skip to Next Unread Group       S
Skip to Next Unread Message     N
Skip to Next Unread Msg. Body   B
Skip to Next Unread Msg. in Thread      T
Spell Checking  F7
Subscribe       Ctrl+S
Tile Vertically (windows/browsers)      Shift+F4
Up to Previous Message  U

View Next Unread Message        Ctrl+N
View Next Unread Message Body   Ctrl+B
View Next Unread Msg.in Thread  Ctrl+T
View Selected Group/This Message        Enter
Watch Thread    W
Word Wrap       O

Zoom Window     Z

See Also:
Intellimouse Navigation


hellow

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=agent_keys.txt
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=agent_keys.txt

Keyboard Shortcuts

A great way to use Agent more efficiently and save time is to use the =
available keyboard shortcuts to perform various functions.  Agent's =
shortcuts (also called "accelerators" or "speed keys") are listed as =
follows:

All Fields (in composition window)      Ctrl+D or Alt+D
Apply ROT13     Ctrl+3
Back Up (to previous msg.)      Backspace or Alt+LeftArrow
Cascade (windows/browsers)      Shift+F5
Check Addresses F8
Check for New Mail      Ctrl+E
Collapse All Threads    Shift- or Shift LeftArrow
Collapse Thread - or LeftArrow
Copy    Ctrl+C
Copy to Folder > All Folders    Shift+Ctrl+C
Select URL      Shift+Ctrl+U
Cut     Ctrl+X
Delete  Del
Delete Body     Ctrl+Del
Down to Next Message    D

Exit    Alt+F4
Expand All Threads      Shift+ or Shift RightArrow
Expand Thread   + or RightArrow
=46ilters > Add Kill Filter     Ctrl+K
=46ilters > Add Watch Filter    Ctrl+W
=46ind  Ctrl+F
=46ind Next     F3
=46ollow-Up Usenet Msg. F
=46orward (to next msg.)        Shift+Backspace or Alt+RightArrow
Goto Next Found Message G
Global Search   Ctrl+G
Ignore Thread   I
Index   Ctrl+I
Jump to Message URL     Ctrl+J
Keep    K
Launch Attachment       L
Launch URL      Ctrl+U
Mark for Retrieval      M

Move to Folders > All Folders   Ctrl+Shift+X
New Email Message       Ctrl+M
New Usenet Message      P
Online/Offline  Ctrl+O
Pane (Groups/Folders)   1
Pane (Message List)     2
Pane (Message)  3
Pane to Pane clockwise  Tab
Pane to Pane counter-clockwise  Shift+Tab
Paste   Ctrl+V
Paste as Quote  Ctrl+Q
Paste Signature Ctrl+I
Pick Addresses  Ctrl+K
Print   Ctrl+P
Properties      Alt+Enter
Refresh (View)  F5
Reply to All    Shift+R
Reply via Email R
Save (from Composition window)  Ctrl+S or Alt+V

Save All Attachments    A
Select All      Ctrl+A
Select/Copy URL Shift+Ctrl+U
Select View     V
Send Later (from Compos. window)        Ctrl+L or Alt+L
Send Now (from Compos. window)  Ctrl+N or Alt+S
Show All Header Fields  H
Show Full Thread        *
Show Raw Message        Ctrl+R
Single-Key Read Space
Skip to Next Unread Group       S
Skip to Next Unread Message     N
Skip to Next Unread Msg. Body   B
Skip to Next Unread Msg. in Thread      T
Spell Checking  F7
Subscribe       Ctrl+S
Tile Vertically (windows/browsers)      Shift+F4
Up to Previous Message  U

View Next Unread Message        Ctrl+N
View Next Unread Message Body   Ctrl+B
View Next Unread Msg.in Thread  Ctrl+T
View Selected Group/This Message        Enter
Watch Thread    W
Word Wrap       O

Zoom Window     Z

See Also:
Intellimouse Navigation



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