<rant>

I think the germane point is that not having the mouse work "right out of
the box" is a pretty lame and frustrating problem.  My first crack at
installing linux (potato, 2 months ago) went incredibly smoothly on a 6 year
old machine with a patchwork of weird drives and hardware.  I was really
impressed that I could reach all my hard drives, mount the old DOS
partitions, and use the blazing SCSI 2x CDROM.  I got X11 up and running
with little trouble - with the exception of the freaking mouse.  That took a
bit of effort.  As someone who's only ever used *nix to read his mail in
college (about 12 years ago), it wasn't much fun trying to hunt down the
right FAQ / HOWTO / Mailing list archive to solve my problem.  Even then,
most of the help amounted to "keep trying different configurations until it
works."

After having forgiven the irony of having the install find prehistoric
hardware and not having found a straightforward mouse, I purchased a laptop,
and installed potato.  No mouse problems.  Then I apt-got the pico editor
*and the mouse quit working again*.  Sheesh!

I wish this thread had been around then. :)

</rant>

(just repeat to yourself, "it's a process, not an end...")

Richard Wurdack

 -----Original Message-----
From:   Stephen Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Wednesday, February 27, 2002 12:21 PM
To:     debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:        Re: mouse problems after switching to Woody

On Wed, 2002-02-27 at 14:52, sam wrote:
> 
> Rather than go into a lot of detail on my problems, I would prefer to get
> a reliable reference to a comprehensive discussion about the installation
> and trouble shooting of mice.  I am currently using Woody (Debian 3.0), a
> ps/2 modem, AMD 500 Mhz cpu -- in other words, nothing very unusual or
> fancy. 
> 
> 
> If no good reference exists, can some computer science or engineering
> instructor suggest this topic to one of their more adventurous students as
> a term project, or even as a Masters thesis.  By the way, I don't
> understand why many exchanges on the Debian lists refer to unpredictable
> mouse problems from unknown sources:  Are mice and their software really
> stochastic machines, or are those people merely as ignorant as I am
> (which is very)?
> 
> Thanks for any help.

Well, without knowing exactly what your problem is, most of the fixes
have been the same - remove gpm because it gets in the way (having both
X and gpm trying to access the mouse simultaneously is bad karma) and
make sure you have the correct device and driver specified in
/etc/X11/XF86Config-4.  

I suspect that anything more serious ends up being a "replace the mouse,
they're cheap" solution, just because it would take more time and money
to troubleshoot and repair than to just buy another one - but that's
just my take on it.


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