On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 11:00:06AM -0500, dman wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 12:02:12AM -0500, Brenda J. Butler wrote:
>  
> | Received: from bjb by seal with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian))
> |     id 16OtJ9-0004QT-00; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 23:28:47 -0500
> | Received: from seal ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [209.151.2.114])
> |     by web30.achilles.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA21655
> |     for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 23:17:20 -0500
> | Received: from web30.achilles.net (web30.achilles.net [209.151.0.6])
> |     by machine.remailer.address (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id 
> XAA09994
> |     for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 23:31:03 -0500
> | Received: from unknown (HELO machine.remailer.address) (206.99.235.25)
> |   by samaria.achilles.net with SMTP; 11 Jan 2002 04:30:36 -0000
> | Received: (qmail 21575 invoked from network); 11 Jan 2002 04:30:36 -0000
> | Received: from pop1.achilles.net
> |     by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.3.3)
> |     for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (single-drop); Thu, 10 Jan 2002 23:31:48 -0500 
> (EST)
> | Received: from localhost [127.0.0.1] (bjb)
> |     by seal with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian))
> |     id 16OtM4-0004Rn-00; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 23:31:48 -0500
> | Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | So machine.remailer.address thinks it is getting the message from
> | web30.achilles.net which can be resolved:  should this be sufficient?
> 
> Nope, it is telling you that your ISP is (partially) messed up :-).
>  
> The purpose of the Received: headers are just to allow admins to track
> down what happened to a message so that configs can be debugged.  Each
> system can be configured to put whatever it wants as a Received:
> header, or nothing at all.  It is recommended to include the info,
> though, in case something goes wrong somewhere.
> 
> Now I'm curious as to what "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" really means -- there
> is no domain "remailer.address" :
> 
> I also can't find any name for that "machine.remailer.address" host.
> Each of those systems that handled the message after yours must know
> how to deliver to that address.  Perhaps that is another sign of a
> misconfigured MTA -- did you really send the message to
> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"?

I should have warned you:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
machine.remailer.address are substitutions for the real strings.

That is my "permanent" address and it only goes to people like
relatives.

Also it is not located at my isp, it is external.  If I was to
move to another city, [EMAIL PROTECTED] would remain the same,
and I would reconfigure it to forward my mail to my new isp.

So the misconfigured NT machine you talked about is at
remailer.address, not at achilles.net.  Actually achilles.net
is a pretty cool isp.

As for remailer.address, it is incoming-only, so I'm happy
as long as my isp accepts mail for me from it in spite of
its misconfiguration.

Thanks.

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