On Wednesday 26 December 2001 23:39, 
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>   Re: Shell script for clients email b  [ Alvin Oga
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: man v. info                       [
> "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: Shell script for clients email b 
> [ "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: kernel compile problems        
>   [ Sean Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] Re: Where do you RTFM ?          
>     [ Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] Re: User process killer
> script..      [ k l u r t <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] RE: man v. info             
>          [ Paul 'Baloo' Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: Where do you RTFM ?  
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>            [ "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: Where do you RTFM ? 
>              [ Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] Re: kernel compile
> problems           [ Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] sound blaster   
>                      [ Mike Atamas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] Re: sound
> blaster                     [ Paul 'Baloo' Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: 
> ssh
> and X                         [ "Jens =?iso-8859-1?q?M=FCller?=" <j ] Is
> there mutt browseable Maildir sol  [ Patrick Hsieh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> Don't replace manpages_1.46-1_all.de  [ Yury Lyakh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] Re:
> Is there mutt browseable Maildir  [ Rudy Gevaert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> Re: Where do you RTFM ?               [ (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> on Tue, Dec 25, 2001 at 06:32:31PM -0800, Craig Dickson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> > Carl Fink wrote:
> > > BTW, for HTML docs, put them all in *one* file with hyperlinks.  There
> > > is no meaningful advantage to cutting it into twenty pieces, and it
> > > makes searching significantly more difficult.
> >
> > For locally-stored docs that's arguable. The advantage of small files
> > comes when you have to read it across a network, especially a WAN.
>
> I'd disagree.  Info nodes can be _quit_ small -- a screen or less of
> data.  Load latency kills you more than the actual data transfer
> interval.  I'd rather have, say, 1/10 the interrupts, of roughly 2-4
> times the duration, than to be interrupted with great frequency.
>
> This can be further mitigated by browsers that render on partial load,
> or which allow background loading of pages (Galeon rocks for this).
>
> > When I want to search a directory of HTML files, I tend to grep it
> > first, then view the files that seem to be apropos.
>
> One better:
>
>     $ less $( grep -l 'pattern' filelist )
>
> Peace.

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> on Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 03:55:41AM -0800, Petre Daniel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> > Ok,this may sound a bit twisted but i dont know very well shell scripting
> > and i have the following problem:
> >
> > i have around 700 accounts on my school server and i want to send email
> > to everyone of them from time to time with news related to the school and
> > stuff.. I thought i can make an account and put in its homedir .forward
> > file all the addresses
> >
> > I need a script that if run, checks all /home accounts and put them
> > like [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the .forward of my
> > email-broadcast-account.  Or is there another simple way?
>
> Simpler?  Dunno.  Other?  Sure.
>
>   - Use a mailing list, e.g.:  Mailman.
>     Pro:  This is what it's designed for.  Highly configurable.
>     Con:  A modicum of setup is involved.
>
>   - Use an MUA mail alias (within your mailer, e.g.:  mutt)
>     Pro:  Simple
>     Con:  Alias is expanded in mailer, all addressees see all others,
>         unless Bcc'd or similar.
>
>   - Use an MTA mail alias (within your mail daemon, e.g.:  exim)
>     Pro:  Reasonably simple.  Conceals/supresses recipient addresses.
>     Con:  Requires root access.  May be accessible to outsiders if your
>         box can be used as a relay.
>
>
> You could also use a shell script and a recipients list:
>
>     $ vi body # message body
>     $ find /home -type d -maxdepth 1 | xargs -n 1 basename > whoto
>     $ for i in $( cat whoto ); do mail -s "Subject" $i < body; done
>
>
> I'd probably opt for the Mailman option, particularly considering once
> you've set up one list, you'll likely have requests for others.
>
> Peace.

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> on Tue, Dec 25, 2001 at 10:55:10PM -0500, Brian Nelson 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > "Karsten M. Self" <kmself@ix.netcom.com> writes:
>
> <...>
>
> > > I don't dislike emacs keybindings per se (I find most legacy MS
> > > Windows- centric word processors unusable because I expect to find
> > > C-a, C-e, C-k, C-p, C-n, C-s, C-r, etc., on them.  Abiword's
> > > supposed to have an emacs mode though I haven't got it to work).
> > > That said, I find vi a more comfortable editor generally.
> >
> > The thing that really bothers me about vi is that it's very
> > QWERTY-centric and feels very awkward with another layout, like
> > Dvorak.  The most often-used keys are chosen due to their position in
> > the home row, and are completely meaningless in any other context (for
> > example, j moves down, k moves up???).
>
> I have to agree.  I taught myself Dvorak at one point (about ten days to
> get over the hump), and found it worked relatively well for text
> editing in, say, a standard word processor.  But it absolutely blows
> chunks with vi.
>
> The problem isn't just vi, though.  _Most_ Unix commands are based on
> mnemonic, consonant-heavy, abbreviations:  ls, cd, rm, mv, ll, who, vi,
> ps, mutt, df....  Most of these are balanced between left and right
> hands, leading to good natural rhythems, many are based on home-row
> keys, etc.  Two of the most annoying Dvorak keytrokes are 'ls' (both
> right pinky) and 'cd' (right middle top row, right index home left
> reach).  It sounds trivial, but you end up typing these repeatedly, and
> the motor memory is hard to break.
>
> > Emacs' key bindings, however, are not aimed toward any particular layout
> > but instead are often chosen as abbreviations of English words (C-n =
> > next line, C-p = previous line, C-s = search, etc.).  Since the Dvorak
> > layout has the most commonly used letters in the home position, these
> > key bindings tend to feel more natural on Dvorak (at least to me).
>
> Interesting, hadn't considered that.   Then again, who wants to
> remember that escape-x-alt-control-left shift-b puts you into
> super-edit-debug-compile mode?  ;-)
>
> I've always found the emacs keystrokes to be considerably
> _anti_-ergonomic.  Pessimal, really.
>
> Peace.

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> On Tue, Dec 25, 2001 at 10:53:06PM -0500, Sean Johnson wrote:
> > The current binutils in sid is fine for compiling 2.4.17 (latest 2.4.x
> > stable kernel).
>
> It's not binutils that have the problem... it's the kernel.  Use a 2.4.17
> or later kernel if you want to avoid the error showing up most of the time.
> The fixes contiue as well... I saw in the kernel mailing list that another
> one of them was identified and fixed.  It'll probably take a while.
>
> See lkml for the gory details.

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> Hello list,
>
> I am running Debian 3.0(woody) with mutt, courier-imap and postfix with
> Maildir. Everything is working well, but I can't find the solution for
> mutt to browse Maildir subfolders. Any solutions?

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