On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 01:23:29AM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
| on Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 07:38:39PM +1100, Andrew Sione Taumoefolau ([EMAIL
PROTECTED]) wrote:
| > On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 11:18:53PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
| > > My problem with numerous GNOME apps (goats comes to mind) is that they
| > > start the panel. This is one of several extremely annoying GNOME
| > > behaviors. Any possibility to override?
| >
| > Maybe you're having this problem because goats isn't a GNOME app
| > proper, but a panel applet?
|
| I believe it's an applet, though it doesn't advertise it as same:
| Description: A sticky-note type program for Gnome
| Goats is a yellow post-it note applet for the Gnome desktop.
^^^^^^
It does say just that :-).
| > Other panel applets have the same (irritating) behaviour, but I've
| > never encountered it in any "real" GNOME applications.
|
| It's more than one applet I've encountered that does this. KDE's apps
| don't seem to have the same behavior.
Apps or applets? There is a big difference.
| > I'm not sure if this is something you can override. Probably not,
| > unfortunately. If you're averse to running the panel for screen
| > real-estate rather than memory considerations you could create a tiny
| > little floating panel that contained only goats... I probably wouldn't
| > even if I could, though, it's a pretty sensibilities-offending prospect
| > :).
|
| It's not so much the memory (thought that's an issue), it's just a
| matter of environment / desktop control. I don't like GNOME. There are
| a few apps which are reasonable. I'll use them. Loading the entire
| environment for a single goddamned little utility is a joke though.
|
| There's a distinction between integration and interoperability I'd
| thought we'd learned in the 1990s.
The GNOME Panel is a core part of the GNOME framework. I was reading
a (old, I printed it quite a while ago but didn't get to reading it)
document about CORBA and GNOME. It described how the panel is a CORBA
servant that provides a lot of functionality for other servants that
wish to use it. One of those is managing the piece of the screen
where the applet can draw its pixels. I think if you want a way to
run an applet without the panel, you would need to create a
panel-look-alike that provided a regular GtkWindow for the applet to
draw itself in.
Anyways the panel is flexible enough that you can have a single panel
with just that applet in it in most places on the edge of your screen.
HTH,
-D
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