On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 12:59:35PM -0500, will trillich wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 05:32:55PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Thanks to all who replied. Your sapient advice has gotten me up and
> > running. This reply is being composed in mutt, somehow it seems to 
> > have known to use vim as the editor and I'm not complaining.
> > (I learned ed, ex, and vi in '82 and emacs is a hobby that can wait ;-)
> > 
> > Some notes for those who follow in my shoes, and especially for those
> > who intend to write the newbie doc:
> > 
> > 1. MacOS and Windows users just don't expect their PC to be a
> > mailserver; they expect a POP3 client to fetch and send mail. Note that
> > the Mutt manual claims that it supports this if you compile it with the
> > pop option, see Chapter 4.10 of the mutt manual. So one could
> > theoretically get by with just fetchmail and mutt. However...
> > 
> > 2. Since every Linux box is multiuser and exim is installed by default,
> > newbie docs should plunge in and have the user configure exim. Option 2
> > worked as advertised for me.
> > 
> > 3. A possible strategy for documentation: Examine the configuration
> > tools for Outlook Express and Eudora on both Mac and Windows. Run the
> > configuration wizards for setting up new mail accounts on each. Write a
> > debian newbie doc that maps this experience to the appropriate program
> > and file in Debian-Gnu/Linux. For example: I knew my email address, my
> > password, my ISP's mailserver name (same for both pop3 and smtp, 
> > extremely commone in this day & age). This is enough info to get me up &
> > running with Communicator, Eudora, or Outlook, but I couldn't find a
> > stand-alone document to get email running on Linux.
> 
> care to pursue that, since 1) it's your idea, 2) a good one, and
> 3) fresh in your mind?
> 
> > Again, thanks for all the help. I'm not an expert yet (no groovy
> > automatic sig w/examples of how each one of Will Trillich's tips led 
> > me to frag my system in a different way<G>), but I am getting my mail, 
> > using multiple mailbox files, and have mutt running in colors that I 
> > can read.
> > 
> > Paul Mackinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> glad i could help (that is, if fragging is good)... :)
> 
> -- 
> DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #23 from Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> :
> Wondering what you should BACK UP -- and what you shouldn't? Here's
> a "how I do it" written by a debian-user regular, Karsten Self:
>       http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/backup.html
> This is a frequent topic on debian-user; check the archives at
> lists.debian.org for other backup approaches -- search for
> "backup scheme".
> 
> Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ...
> 

        Greetings Will Trillich,

        I just wanted to let you know that when I put in the entire URL

http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/backup.html

by itself, I get the following page....

http://www.earthlink.net/error/404.html

But if I go to http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ and click on the
approriate links I arrive at the URL given in your newbie tip. -fyi

        Jim Richards



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