okay, paul, i'm officially recruiting you, hammer-and-tongs, as a
newbiedoc contributor. your prose is wonderful and echoes frmo
hill and dale with a sparkling clarity that... oh, hell, you can
write, man! delightful!

and kevin, when the light goes on, and all the fog clears,
imagine how much hair-pulling you'll save the next poor soul if
you document what you learned... hmm?

http://sourceForge.net/projects/newbiedoc/


On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 03:39:55AM -0400, Paul D. Smith wrote:
> %% Kevin Stokes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>   ks> There is something that Linux needs much more than anything else,
>   ks> and that is a decent help system.  We need something about 50
>   ks> times larger than the man pages.  Something which always has an
>   ks> extensive chapter in simple layman language, and lots of examples
>   ks> with clear steps with *explanations*.  And also a way to get to
>   ks> the more typically man page type stuff for the people who need
>   ks> that.
> 
>   ks> Who is willing to create such a thing?  Not me, I'm not a Linux
>   ks> devotee.
> 
> That's the problem.  The people writing the program write documentation
> that makes sense to them and to other people using it.  This
> documentation is naturally technical in nature.  There's a certain
> "critical mass" of knowledge you need to obtain before you can really
> start understanding the documentation.
> 
> What's needed is for people like _you_ to help write "super newbie"
> docs.  We can't do it.  We're not newbies.  We don't know what newbies
> need.

i beg to differ! http://sourceForge.net/projects/newbiedoc/

>   ks> But the bottom line is that the Windows Help system totally blows
>   ks> away all the confusing HOWTO's, man pages, or archived email
>   ks> searches.
> 
> See, here's a prime example of the differences in our perspective.
> 
> The Windows Help system _sucks_ huge boulders through coffee stirrers.
> It totally blows chunks.

that may wind up in a ~/.signature soon! :)

>   ks> Anyway...  Does anybody know what steps I need to do in order make
>   ks> ssh work so I can log in remotely?  I wanted to try to use Tera
>   ks> Term Pro with the SSH extenstion to log onto my Linux machine from
>   ks> a Windows machine on the local network.
> 
>   ks> Right now if I type:
> 
>   ks> ssh -v -l root rocky
> 
> Here's the thing.
> 
> You can't login remotely as root, by default, over ssh: the ssh setup
> disallows this (as with everything in UNIX, this is configurable if you
> really want to do it--it's a bad idea so it's disabled initially).
> 
> You don't want to work as root, at all, ever, anytime, anywhere,
> anyplace.  Even for testing.  _Especially_ for testing.  Use root only
> when you must do root operations, then run screaming into the bushes
> again immediately after you've done that operation.

wonderful!

> Be careful!  That private key is like your password; anyone who gets a
> copy can get into your system.  It's a good idea to sign the key with a
> passphrase when ssh-keygen asks for one: then people not only need the
> private key but they also need your passphrase.  This is more secure
> because the passphrase is used only to unlock the key locally; neither
> the passphrase _NOR_ the key itself are ever transmitted over the
> network.
> 
> Public/private key cryptography is not the most straightforward thing in
> the world, unfortunately.

or fortunately, depending on which facet you're looking into. :)

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