Hello, 

   i'm new to debian (and must say that i like it better than any other
distro i've used), and i'm hearing people say they are using xfree 4 and
kde, and am wondering if i need to install that the old fashioned way (cvs
co xc; cd xc; make World) or if there are .deb's i can get via apt-get.  I
have a friend who tells me that i can apt-get them, but i cannot see them.
my sources.list points to the woody(testing) dir on ftp.us.debian.org, and
i've run apt-get update; apt-get upgrade, as well as apt-cache search kde,
and searchong for X.  So my question is if there are .ebs for these, wahat
do i need to do to make them visible to apt.  

Thanks
-casey

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