okies well i've figured out the answer to functional (possibly even correct) 
mysql backup and restore on debian potato.

i know i'm not the only person on this list who needs to know this so i'm 
posting up what works for me.

to create the backup:

#mysqldump -c -p DBNAME > DBNAME.sql

to retreive the database 

#mysqladmin -p create DBNAME
#mysql -p DBNAME < DBNAME.sql

Hope this helps.

John

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