If the description for subscribing to list is changed from Subscribe to "Get Trapped in List" maybe people will pay more attention to the instructions for getting both in and out.:-)
I see both sides of this issue. I still haven't configured email on debian so get my mail via Windows so a more Windows friendly method of unsubscribing would be useful to me (if I ever decide to unsubscribe) and others. On the other hand there's probably even more to say for keeping up an honored tradition. Finally, after having read about 6 months worth of Stupid Unsubscriber Rants, I'd have to say that an inordinate number of people seem to enjoy the opportunity of exercising that rant. Another tradition?:-) Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "ktb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Debian User List" <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 12:00 AM Subject: Re: I want out! > On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 10:54:47PM -0500, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > > <snip> > > > > > Sure, but it still doesn't make any sense that all other Debian lists > > that I'm on have nice clear instructions at the bottom of every message > > describing how to get off the list, while the user list, arguably the > > list with the largest newbie population, has a command that needs to be > > run from a Unix system with a *working mail server*! Not only that, but > > the command is split across 2 lines, making it even harder for newbies > > to use effectively. Newbies are > > 1) less likely to be logged in to a Unix system with a working > > mail command > > and > > 2) less likely to grok the command in the first place. > > > > So why is it that the laptop list, the IPv6 list, the devel list, the > > security list, the security-announce list, and probably many others have > > nice, clean instructions on unsubscribing *including* an address to > > contact if you have troubles. Here's what the other lists have: > > begin quote: > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > end quote. > > > > I've Cc'd listmaster with this message in the hope that a change will be > > made. > > > > I've been on and off this list for a couple years. I just started using > Debian again after about a 6 month layoff. I'm glad to see this string is > still going:) Maybe it is perverse of me but I would hate to see the > instructions change. It is a tradition:) On the other hand I can remember > not knowing what the instructions meant when I first started but I did > something crazy when I wanted to unsubscribe - I went to the Debian web site > and I followed links on that page that took me to the information that I > needed to unsubscribe. It was a long and grueling process;) If someone > does get "trapped" in this list and can't figure out how to "get out" someone > tells them how. > kent > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null >