that's true, I was just providing more info, I use x-isp because I can have a list of numbers, if one fails it calls another - AFAIK the ppp scripts provided with debian do not have this functionality - do they? (I haven't found anything that looked like it might provide the same functionality, but I haven't searched very hard)
while we're at topic of ppp, I'd appreciate advices how to accomplish following the least obtrusive way: 1) start pppd (persist, use list of phone numbers) 2) show the /var/log/ppp.log (or equal info) until connected, then info disappears 3) users in given group can stop pppd, even if it was started by another user (would sudo help here?) 4) show very very small indicator of status - perhaps even use keyboard led (scroll lock, I never use that one) [most of these could be accomplished by existing programs and fairly simple shell/perl/whatever scripts but I hope somebody already have the whole thing figured out] of course, it has to be (mainly point 4) WM/desktop independent... (i.e. not part of some enlightenment panel or something) thanks in advance, erik John Hasler wrote: > > Erik Steffl writes: > > I use x-isp, it re-dials when connection is lost... I guess other ppp > > front-ends have similar fuctionality > > No "front-ends" needed. Just give pppd the 'persist' option. You can do > this in pppconfig: Go to 'Advanced"' and select 'Persist'. > -- > John Hasler > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) > Dancing Horse Hill > Elmwood, WI > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null