Okay,
here's what's going down.  I've put Gnome on a few ways.  First setup I had 
going I was originally running Debian 2.1, then I went up to 2.2, and 
downloaded Gnome with apt-get.  So it's kind of working fine, but it's also 
giving me some flak kinda.  First of all the whole session save thing's not 
happening.  When I log of using the "foot menu" it cuts right out, and the 
console informs me that the X server was unexpectedly cut.  I can't do the 
save session command off of the menu either.  If I click nothing happens, and 
I always get the same screen when I log back in.  So yesterday I got a three 
CD set of Debian 2.2 from Linux Central, so I decided to just knock the whole 
partition out and reinstall with those disks.  I hadn't anything installed in 
Linux yet, so that was fine.  The first time when it gave me options for 
packages, I went wild on it, selecting things like Gnome complete, X 
complete, etc.  That resulted in having way mroe programs then I'd use, of 
course, and X autostarting so that I could never see the command line, which 
I generally prefer, again.  I don't know how to change all of that 
auto-launch stuff (can anyone help me out there), so I just knocked out the 
partition, and this time installed only the base system.  After that I used 
apt-get to grab X and Gnome off the CDs.  So up until this point I've been 
using enlightenment as a window manager, by the way, but it's got way too 
many things going on that really don't need to be there, in my oppinion :-)  
So I've tried icewm, which I like a bit more.  Nowhere in all of this has 
session save worked.  I ended up taking "panel" out of my Xsession file just 
to see what would happen.  With the Gnome panel gone, logging off from icewm 
let's the thing "gently" log off (when I get back to the console it was 
perfectly aware that X was shuting down).  However, session save still isn't 
working.  Also, when I did this last attempt in which I just installed the 
base system and then X and Gnome, I no longer have a Debian menu.  I was 
thinking maybe that's because X and Gnome are the only things installed, but 
shouldn't there be an empty Debian menu at least?  That's kind of all that's 
going on.  I'm using kernel 2.2.17 if that's important.  Anyway, if more info 
is needed I can give it, but basically what I'm asking is:
How do I get session manager working?
Where'd my Debian menu go
Am I short any packages I really should have d/led?
Is there a window manager you guys prefer?  I heard sawfish mentioned, where 
do I get that?
(less/not so important question) How do I edit what programs are gettting 
launched at boot (e.g. making X *not* load at boot for the graphical log in).

Thanks in advance for help on any of those.

-Chris

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