On Wed, Aug 16, 2000 at 05:19:29PM -0300, Rogerio Brito wrote: > Interestingly enough, the most common machines nowadays in my country > seem to be Celeron or K6-2 machines with 32MB of RAM. This makes > surfing the web with Linux almost a nightmare (even if you turn on > UDMA/66 so that swapping is 2 or 3 times faster).
I understand that this is a money issue, but 64MB of RAM is considered standard these days, and that requirement is unlikely to shrink. Buying 32MB of RAM when your other hardware is K6-2 and UDMA/66 harddrive doesn't make much sense IMHO. > I recognize that not everybody should be developing for embedded > systems, but expecting people to change their computers so that they > can run the newer software is an absurd. While I partly agree with this I also think that if you expect to be able to run the latest sofware you will have to expect to sometimes also upgrade your hardware. If a person can't do that he's going to have to stick to what he's using now. > I will get in the next month a new Athlon with 128MB and a good > motherboard. I hope that Mozilla runs on my new machine. :-) I'm gonna buy myself an Althlon soon too, I just want to wait a little longer so that USB v2 gets supported on motherboards. Bluetooth would be nice too, but that would be too long of a wait:-) > Well, I also think that Netscape 4.x is slow. But it is not as slow as > Mozilla (and it is acceptably stable here on my machine). But the problem with Netscape 4.x isn't just that it's buggy beyond words, it also has really poor standards compliance. > Well, optimizing has its limits. I don't hold that much of a faith > until I see the size of the program decrease a lot. The source is out there, you can always jump in and help fix it. > Ok. I'll try one of the nightly builds and then I'll post my analisys > here, as soon as I have some time. Great, I'm looking forward to hearing your experience with it. Let me also know what kernel you're doing your tests on, the VM can have quiet a big impact on these things. > So, if you have other applications using those libraries, then the > increase in memory occupation won't be as noticeable as if you > increase the size of your binary (which will only be shared by > different instances of your program and not by other programs as > well). Yes, that's obviously the point with gnome and similair projects, but if you don't normally use gnome, which isn't very likely if we are talking about a low-end system, you don't gain much from this. > I'm not complaining about the slowness of the project. I'm just > fearing that it may not be as successful as it could be. Just remember that you can always step in and give those guys some help. > Ok. Let's wait a little bit more about it. And hope it gets > smaller. :-) Mozilla 1.0 will bring peace to earth, I just know it:-) -- // André
