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From: "Steve Barr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Nick Willson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2000 9:27 PM
Subject: RE: Trouble with toy network


> > Seeking help persuading a desktop and laptop to talk to each other over
a
> > private network (192.168.0.0).
> >
> > The 'link' LEDs at both ends remain dark and no communication
> > appears to be
> > taking place.  Ping from either side results in 100% packet loss,
> > and telnet
> > from either side results in 'No route to host'.  It's just some silly
> > misconfiguration, I hope.  More details below, all help welcome.
>
> Hi Nick.  Maybe I can help.  Are you connecting the laptop and desktop
> computers to a hub, or directly to each other?
>
> If you are connecting them to a hub, standard cables are needed.  If you
are
> connecting them directly to each other you need a cross-over cable.
>
> I believe the pin out for a cross-over cable is:
>
>    ONE END    OTHER END
> 1 3
> 2 6
> 3 1
> 4 4
> 5 5
> 6 2
> 7 7
> 8 8
>
> I haven't read and digested all of the information that you included in
your
> post.  I am impressed with all of the information.  If the cabling doesn't
> help, I will read the remaining information and see if anything jumps out.
>
> Steve Barr
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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Steve's right, but in a standard 10-BaseT connection pins 4,5,7,8
don't need to be connected at all.  The best solution would be to
get yourself a hub: they are cheap (especially 10Mb only), they
allow you to attach other systems, you use standard cables.

Unless you have an RJ-48 crimper, cat 3 (or better) cable, and the crimp-on
connectors it can be problematic to make a cable that works...
cutting a standard cable and trying to splice it together generally
won't work.  If you do make the cable, make sure that you are using
the right crimp-on connector.  Most cat 3-5 cable is solid core wire,
and if you try to use a connector intended for braided cable you won't get
a good connection.

I haven't looked lately for a crossover cable at a computer store like
CompUSA or at Best Buy, so I wouldn't count on finding one.

The link lites on the adapters have to be on, it tells you that the transmit
pair (1,2) is talking to a receive pair (3,6) on the other side.  The hubs
have ports that have receive on 1&2 and transmit on 3&6 so you can use
the standard straight thru cable.

Scott Chamberlain (speaking from past experience in large ethernet
wire plant installations... not doing that now, thank God!)

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