aphro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >just make sure xntp3 is running, you can test it by telnetting to >port 37 on the ntp server
Yes, a telnet to .1 37 does indeed return a little healty garbage - although I thought perhaps ntp connects to port 123 using udp (this idea based on a 'grep ntp /etc/services' and the assumption it sends udp packets in the name of speed - perhaps my conception has been off?) Jean-Yves BARBIER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >That means your xntpd is not loaded, otherwise it should return: > 2 Nov 03:21:51 ntpdate[5563]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting Yes, I do indeed get this message ntpd is running on .2 (I notice that I am not running xntpd and hope that isn't the issue; my ntp installation comes from package version 4.0.98a-1 and seems to run a binary /usr/sbin/ntpd). In the name of troubleshooting, my thought was to kill ntpd (/etc/init.d/ntp stop) on .2 and use ntpdate from there to test if the ntp server on .1 was working. Here is some verbose, debugging from running ntpdate on .2 (after I've stopped ntpd on .2 to free the socket): -- > ntpdate -v -d 192.168.1.1 1 Nov 21:50:21 ntpdate[529]: ntpdate 4.0.98a Sun Sep 19 16:24:58 MDT 1999 (1) transmit(192.168.1.1) receive(192.168.1.1) transmit(192.168.1.1) receive(192.168.1.1) transmit(192.168.1.1) receive(192.168.1.1) transmit(192.168.1.1) receive(192.168.1.1) transmit(192.168.1.1) server 192.168.1.1, port 123 stratum 16, precision -17, leap 11, trust 000 refid [0.0.0.0], delay 0.02573, dispersion 0.00000 transmitted 4, in filter 4 reference time: 00000000.00000000 Wed, Feb 6 2036 22:28:16.000 originate timestamp: bbc8fa1d.c5360d02 Mon, Nov 1 1999 21:50:21.770 transmit timestamp: bbc8fa1d.4c75e636 Mon, Nov 1 1999 21:50:21.298 filter delay: 0.02579 0.02573 0.02573 0.02573 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 filter offset: 0.471602 0.471602 0.471601 0.471602 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 delay 0.02573, dispersion 0.00000 offset 0.471602 1 Nov 21:50:21 ntpdate[529]: no server suitable for synchronization found -- >From this it seems clear that .2 can communicate with ntpd on .1 (If I stop ntpd on .1 the output for the same command looks assuringly different, e.g. no receive(192.168.1.1) lines and lots of zero values for stuff like timestamp, delay). >From my perspective, the problem to appears to be in the line: stratum 16, precision -17, leap 11, trust 000 It's like ntpdate doesn't consider .1 'suitable' or trustworthy to sync up with. Maybe I need to find a way to bump up .1's advertised stratum? Meantime, thanks for the tips - at least netdate 192.168.1.1 works, so I could band-aid a cron-job to periodically run netdate... /Iain Lamb