David Coe wrote: > > Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > "A. M. Varon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Could we have a potato mailing lists? > > > > That's part of what debian-devel *is* for. Why would we want another > > list for it? > > Ben answered on _debian-devel_, but not on _debian-user_; I hope he > doesn't mind my posting in both places (this discussion has been going > on in both places). > > A.M. said (I'm paraphrasing) that casual readers of debian-user may > come away thinking Debian has lots of problems, when in fact the > problems discussed are mostly in the unstable (currently "potato") > distribution.
Maybe, but how many have done what I and many others have done and simply lurk in deb.usr long enough to figure out whats going on, ie, learn about the stable and unstable branches? > > A.M's suggestion may have merit: a new _debian-user-unstable_ list > could separate the user "bleeding edge" discussions from the stable > user discussions. Ok, lord knows Debian has enough mailing lists already, but adding this one wouldn't hurt too much. > > As Ben said, _debian-devel_ is already a place to discuss problems > with unstable -- but there's lots of cruft there that's uninteresting > to unstable users unless they're considering becoming developers. This is a bit problematic, as for a time I lurked in debian-devel, and at one point developers were frustrated with the presence of non-developers posting to the list. For a time, closing the list to non-developers was debated there. So, having debian-devel do double duty will not work, AFAICT, because this will create a lot of new traffic that developers would have to wade through. Disclaimer: I'm not a developer. > > But if we create _debian-user-unstable_, the _debian-user_ readers > would miss (would they care?) the discussions -- some of them > interesting -- about changes, and might therefore be less well > prepared to handle the upgrade to potato when it becomes stable. If the mailing list web page puts these two options side-by-side and explains the differences, that should be enough. I have a feeling though that a majority of people will just subscribe to both. Plus there will probably be a fair amount of crossposting. > > So I obviously can't make up my mind; I think we should let the > _debian-user_ population decide: would you like to split the group? > I'm not strongly for or against. I could certainly live with another mailing list, but whatever we do, lets leave debian-devel to the developers. -- Ed C.