> What exactly do you mean when you say you can't get the network to 
> 'start'? 

/etc/init.d/network/start 

returns the message 

SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable

with no other information.

I switched to the tulip driver as James Lewis suggested, and it loads
with no messages (de4x5 gave me messages about requiring irq11), and I
still get this message from the netwrok start.

>You can't ping anything? 

not even the next machine.

>Have you got the right ifconfig and routes? 

I presume so.  From this machine, the path is

smithttyp3:hawk>traceroute hawkins.cba.uni.edu
traceroute to hawkins.cba.uni.edu (134.161.248.148), 30 hops max, 40
byte packet
s
 1  router111.iastate.edu (129.186.111.254)  0.973 ms  0.932 ms  1.295
ms
 2  b06br2-vlan253.tele.iastate.edu (129.186.253.5)  3.662 ms  1.421
ms  1.401 m
s
 3  b31br4-atm.tele.iastate.edu (129.186.251.31)  1.284 ms  1.361 ms
1.849 ms
 4  ICN-ISU-t3.icn.state.ia.us (205.221.255.5)  3.392 ms  3.558 ms
3.237 ms
 5  UNI-1-ICN-t1.icn.state.ia.us (205.221.255.186)  71.605 ms  135.451
ms  132.1
99 ms
 6  starbase1.uni.edu (134.161.1.1)  152.496 ms  40.859 ms  9.195 ms
 7  hawkins.cba.uni.edu (134.161.248.148)  16.941 ms  9.768 ms  11.78
ms

I find the jump straight from the university gateway to my machine
odd, but there doesn't appear to be a router at 134.161.248.148 (it
answers pings, but ignores telnet connections.  Besides, it seems
possible to reach my machine without going near it).  I've listed the
.1.1 address as my router.0

>Do you need dhcp?

I've assumed not.  I get the same IP address every time, so I presume
that they're static.  I don't know what that means on a network the
tech support people (in explaining why I'd "waived" support by the sin
of installing linux) claim is pure novell (TCP/IP is actually disabled
on the network printers).

The IPX faq seems to cover printing & directories on novell well
enough for me to deal with, but first I need access to the world :(

rick

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