I found that if you use lynx to go to your ftp site, locate the package,
tap enter and the rest happens.

Phil

On Thu, 10 Dec 1998, Tun Yang wrote:

> Hi all, thanks for all who have helped me out so far. Slowly, but steadily,
> I'm getting to know how to do things in debian...
> My new questions are : How do debian packages work? Everything that came on
> the cd works nicely : if you keep it that way. My general question in
> short, is, how to install new .deb packages from the net properly? How to
> install E, licq, GQMpeg? How to convert rpm to deb properly? (seems most
> people has rpm dists)
> 
> Is there somewhere with a debian-beginner-beginner kind of documentation? I
> mean, I can't seem to find any docs for how someone is supposed to install
> deb packages they got on their own, etc. etc.....I looked through support
> and documentation pages on www.debian.org. Support? IRC (hard when you
> don't have your computer working, or when you don't feel like wading
> through lots of messages. And some people are just kind of rude)
> Documentation pages talks mostly about how to get debian installed.... 
> 
> the following is some stuff I did, and screwed up, that led to these
> questions so maybe you'll have an understanding of where I'm coming from..
> --
> I got all my hardware working, even the sound on my OPL-SA3 using the ALSA
> driver... I started to set my sights on the software side of things: X and
> windowmaker, and the software to go with it to make it nice and usable.
> First off, I tried to get the GQMpeg frontend for mpg123 player. There was
> no .deb package, and I couldn't figure out the dependencies (well, I gave
> up.. it wasn't very important). Then, I tried to get Licq working, no .deb
> package either. Couldn't work it out. Then, I tried to get Enlightenment
> the window manager working. Couldn't get it working. I kept trying to get E
> to work though...
> Steps I took:
> 1. Went to www.enlightenment.org
> 2. Got the rpm dist
> 3. Used Alien on the rpm
> 4. did a dpkg -i on the produced deb
> 5. dselect, looked at it, and it said it didn't depend on anything and was
> installed. E depended on a lot of things though... and when I looked at one
> of the info sections, it showed all the deps, but dselect didn't check it.
> 6. Decided, fine. I'll try and find a real deb, or some faqs...
> 7. Looked on the E faq, told me to get the files needed for debian from a
> "grab table", lots of deb packages were shown there, but they were all
> broken links.
> 8. Found that most of the packages were linked to ftp.debian.org, so I
> manually went there, and grabbed packages with the same name, but different
> version number..
> 9. To make a long story short, I did dpkg -i on all the packages I got,
> enlightenment was happy, but everything else was not. libc was now a 'u'
> version, when it was a 't' version before. Everything was screwed up, so I
> said, whooooooooo.. and deleted the linux partition.
> 10. Re-installed debian (10th time? 20th?) To save time, I didn't
> re-install all the packages... just the stuff I seem to use so far. (all
> the reqs, some of the standard stuff)
> 11. tried to get my sound working again, couldn't get alsa-driver to
> compile. 
> 12. dselect, selected 2.0.34 kernel source, installed it.
> 13. alsa-driver still won't compile.
> 14. configured the kernel, tried to compiled it, didn't work. missing
> a86...
> 15. forgot that I needed bin86 package. Installed that. 
> 16. kernel recompiled uneventfully. didn't do anything with it though
> because I didn't need it (Had a previously compiled kernelI was using)
> 15. alsa-driver compiled. 
> 16. alsa-libs compiled
> 17. alsa-utils failed to compile. Didn't know why.
> 18. Even though ./configure for alsa-utils didn't fail outright, it said
> some things weren't found... byacc, bison, etc...
> 19. I installed those. Realized, most programs probably rely on standard
> packages. So, I installed all the standard packages.
> 20. but for some reason, g++ caused a conflict with another standard
> package.... g++libstd something or another.
> 21. chose g++ because I needed that.
> 22. got sound working again, got x working with windowmaker again.
> 23. tried to get enlightenment working again, used the "ftp access method"
> in dselect to get new updated package listings. New package listings did
> not show the deps that E needed. Did a dpkg -a on all the debs I kept from
> previous installations. Went in, tried to get all the dependencies working
> before installing the packages.
> 24. failed miserably. something wrong with libc6 'u' version and libc6 't'
> version...
> 25. gave up. spent about 10 hours.
> 
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