use ps x the processes lost their controling termals. ps x shows them so you will see ? instead of numbers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, 21 Nov 1998, David Densmore wrote: > In case anyone is interested, I figured out why I couldn't list the PID > of the app (Wine/Agent) that crashed my X server. I had logged out of > the original console from which I started X, and it seems that when I > do that, the PIDs of some of the processes associated with X will no > longer display when I use the ps command. > > Here is the output from ps before logging out of the original console: > > $ ps w a > PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND > 100 S1 S 0:00 /usr/sbin/gpm -m /dev/ttyS1 -t mman -l > "a-zA-Z0-9_.:~/\300-\ > 116 3 S 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty3 > 117 4 S 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty4 > 118 5 S 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty5 > 119 6 S 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty6 > 192 2 S 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty2 > 218 S0 S 0:00 /usr/sbin/pppd /dev/ttyS0 38400 defaultroute > 360 1 S 0:00 xterm -geometry 80x24+135+105 -ls > 361 1 S 0:00 xterm -geometry 80x20-0-0 -ls > 345 1 S 0:00 -bash > 351 1 S 0:00 xinit /home/g7/.xinitrc -- -auth /home/g7/.Xauthority > 359 1 S 0:00 twm > 362 p0 S 0:00 -bash > 363 p1 S 0:00 -bash > 368 p1 R 0:00 ps w a > > And here is the output of ps after logging out of the original console: > > $ ps w a > PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND > 100 S1 S 0:00 /usr/sbin/gpm -m /dev/ttyS1 -t mman -l > "a-zA-Z0-9_.:~/\300-\ > 116 3 S 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty3 > 117 4 S 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty4 > 118 5 S 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty5 > 119 6 S 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty6 > 192 2 S 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty2 > 218 S0 S 0:00 /usr/sbin/pppd /dev/ttyS0 38400 defaultroute > 371 1 S 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty1 > 362 p0 S 0:00 -bash > 363 p1 S 0:00 -bash > 372 p1 R 0:00 ps w a > > Notice that PIDs 360, 361, 345, 351 and 359 disappeared from the > list (I think 345 was the original console). But those processes were > still running and I was still able to kill one of my xterms (PID 361) > even though it no longer was displayed by ps. > > Is this normal behavior? Is is a bug? Is it at all interesting? > Shouldn't PIDs of all running processes be displayed by ps even if > the user who started it logs out of the console from which it was > started? > > Just wondering, > David Densmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null >
