Date: 5/12/98 To: The Debian Org. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Bert Conliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The Debian Starter System Background: For the past few months I've been reading on all fronts about the superiority of Linux over the incoming Windows '98 and the Windows NT systems. Having used MSDOS and the windows systems for quite a few years; and not being overly impressed with making Bill Gates a trillionare, I decided to start out with the Basic Debian system. Experience: I have been around computers for a few years, and I have some experience on various pcs and with IBM and Burroughs main frames. Therefore, I thought that I had enough background to try Debian Linux. History: The download from Sunsite went well, and I got the required files. Made diskettes from these files, installed them on a seperate hard disk, and brought up Debian Linux. For someone with no Linux experience, it was tedious, but not impossible. Now that I have the basic Debian installed what do I do? Having seen and read about "How To's" at various linux sites; well, I figured this is the place to get basic information, and structure to start off on Debian. After a couple weeks on checking various sites (first off Debian's); I found Guido Gonzato's excellent, Configuration - How To. At last, I can get started on configuring and learning to use Debian Linux! Now frustration sets in. Guido's document does not refer to the Debian system's structure. I am at a lost to relate to where to find the files on my Debian system. I try seaching directories for help, again leading to more frustration. Debian is not user friendly, it is "novice frutrating", is there a special reason for this? The "plain vanilla Debian Linux" offers nothing for the "novice" linux user. Would it have been too much to expect: 1. A document telling the "novice" what to do next. 2. A set of instructions on how to configure the system. 3. The simple basics required to administrate Debian. 4. Having manuals operational so that, one would have some type of reference. 5. Just plain old "guidance". If I am a novice who is just being oriented, dselect at this time is a bit too much. What do I know about the requirements for package installation. Even if I did download a package, how could I be sure if I should have selected MSDOS or i386 items? After all I am coming from a MSDOS sytem. That I should download packages.gz or contents.gz. Please help me to walk (configure the system I just installed), before you start " clocking " me for a 3:50 mile (updating a system I can even configure, or access its reference material). Why couldn't the system be distributed with the documentation and resources to implement LILO as the boot manager for dualbooting MSDOG (as guru(s) fondly refer to the Bill Gates software). Hey, I'm a "dummy", please treat me like one. I'm not writing " C " programs at Berkley, MIT or Dusseldorf; I'm a beginner, trying to get started. Please recognize that we're in a state that requires " debian linux nurturing ". We want to learn to use Debian, please help us, don't push us away. (Speaking for other novices who fail to communicate their plight). Yes, I've read about "O'reilly" books and all that stuff. But, in this world, there are no Amazons or Barnes and Nobles on every street corner. In Peru, Panama, Costa Rica, Nigeria we have a bit of a problem locating B&N and Amazon. If you give us enough guidance to start with, we can play "catch up" later on. The " first step " starts the journey. Now, I know that Debian is a "freebie" organization and it depends on volunteers. But, if you groom your "novices" properly, you may just have your own " farm system " of volunteers down the road. If you showed me how, I would even be willing to help you setup what I stated in 1. thru 5. I don't even know your system, but, I am willing to help. Another Call for help!!! Bert Conliffe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]