On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Tim O'Brien wrote:

> 
> It looked like it might work, but it crapped out big-time when it cam time
> to install X. In fact, errors to the degree that there were missing links,
> and xf86config couldn't run. 
> 
> I've used debian before, and it worked great! I like it! Is there something
> I've done wrong? All I did was a new install...
> 
I can offer several suggestions...

I did about 5 installs from scratch during pre-release testing with
varying degrees of smoothness. However, I was always able to complete the
installation. Here is what I have found:

1. Depending on which packages are chosen, the order of installation will
be different, resulting in different degrees of success satisfying
dpendencies. When the X installation is attempted along with the
"standard" installation the order of installation causes dependency
failures. The most important of which is that, because of missing
libraries, the configuration programs will not execute successfully. There
are two solutions to this:

        A. After a failed intallation pass with dselect, make a
           "configure" pass followed by another installation pass. Repeat
           until all packages successfully install.

        B. Install the "standard" packages in one run, and the X packages
           only after the standard installation is complete.

The second method (B) provides a smoother installation path and is the
recommended path.

Method A is the "proven method" for dealing with dependency ordering
problems in dselect. At times the error messages look un-recoverable, but
succeeding passes will eventually resolve the problems and allow complete
installation. Simply have faith and keep plugging. (Note: if the same
error occurs over and over even after several passes, and is the only
error occuring, then there is a "real" problem with that package that
should be asked about on the list.

2. Several X packages have "hidden" dependencies on other packages, so it
is possible to select a set of packages that dselect thinks are fine but
where there is actually a dependence on a package not yet selected. My
testing experience produced the following list:

        Required Packages:

                xbase                   Basic X programs
                xserver-vga16           Configuration server
                xserver-<your choice>   Operational server 
                xfntbase                Basic Font set
                xlib6                   Library provided in "standard"

        Recommended Packages:

                Some Window Manager:
                        fvwm2           A window manager
                        xpm4.7          Pixmap runtime libraries
                        fvwm-common     Files common to fvwm2 and fvwm
                        xloadimage      A suggested graphics viewer

                Additional Fonts:
                        xfnt100         100dpi fonts
                        xfnt75          75dpi fonts
                        xfntbig         Large fonts
                        xfntcyr         Cyrillic fonts
                        xfntil2         ISO 8859-2 fonts
                        xfntpex         Pex minimal font support
                        xfntscl         Scalable fonts

                Available Window Managers in Debian 1.3
                        9wm             Plan 9 Window Manager
                        afterstep       NextStep look and feel WM
                        ctwm            Claud's Tab WM
                        fvwm            F Virtual WM
                        fvwm2           F2 VWM
                        fvwm95          F VWM with Win95 look and feel
                        gwm             Generic WM
                        olvwm           OpenLook VWM
                        wm2             Small unconfigurable WM

Many of the "hidden" dependencies are being worked out for the 1.3.1
release, and this should make X easier to install.

Hope this is of some help,

Dwarf
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