> Subject: failure notice > On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Bill Bumgarner wrote: > > This message was definetelly not appropriate for > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I even do not know if it is for [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Is there still a debian-talk list? > > > > I cannot believe that after HOW MANY years of development, X windows is > > still such a completely inconsistent and painful user interface. > > This is a true problem which last from the fact that X11 is seperated > from the stadart toolkit Motif (which is payware) > > > > The STUPIDITY of the whole thing is frustrating. > > Yes this is also true. There is now orthogonal user interface. > > > Text fields between applications do not work the same. One is not > > guranteed to be able to copy/paste text between fields. Some fields must > > have the mouse pointer within them during the editing process, some don't. > > This is due to different toolkits. > > > There is no inter-application communication or awareness to speak of. > > This can be handelt via sockets,fifos.... > > [lot of stuff about deficiencies of X11 based desktops] > > !! There is a solution up and coming !! > > Have look at the kde project. > > You will find kde mirrors at the following locations: > ftp://fiwi02.wiwi.uni-tuebingen.de/pub/kde/ <-- primary site > ftp://ftp.net.lut.ac.uk/kde/ > ftp://ftp.nvg.unit.no/pub/linux/kde/ > > WWW info can be found at: > http://www-pu.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/users/ettrich/kde.txt > http://fiwi02.wiwi.uni-tuebingen.de/kde/index.html > http://www.zws.com/kde/ > http://er4www.eng.ohio-state.edu/~cooperb/kde/style.html > > There is a nice screenshot of an already working kde (kool desktop > environment) > > http://fiwi02.wiwi.uni-tuebingen.de/kde/demos/kdescreenshot1.jpg.gz > > > We already do have: > kcalc a nifty kde calculator with hex, dec, oct, bin > kclock a simple analog kde clock > kfm the kde filemanager (also handles URLs and tar) > kmines a kde minesweeper clone > kpat a kde solitaer clone > colia a kde draw program which shall replace xfig/tgif > kMix a kde mixer for your soundcard > kterm a kde replacement for xterm > libkde a configuration class library > kpopup a kde extension to Qt > progress a kde extension to Qt > kwm a kde windows manager > acli a little command line interface > > Soon to come > > kLyX a kde version of the famous WYSIWYM LaTeX based textprocessor > ktetris a kde version of tetris (we've been all waiting for :-)) > > > Yours, > -- martin > > BTW: Who wants to write a dpkg based installer for kde. > > > // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // > // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // > Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades > -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- > > Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! > Worked for me all the times. > -- Linus Torvalds --
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