On Fri, 13 May 2005 21:10:54 -0600 "Monique Y. Mudama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2005-05-14, Jacob S penned: > > On Fri, 13 May 2005 19:58:07 -0600 "Monique Y. Mudama" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Thanks! I sort of had a small clue about DNS stuff long ago, but > after I decided to let a friend's network company handle this stuff > for me, my brain turned to mush on the matter. That makes sense. The > email from my ISP seemed to indicate that the problem was that the A > record's PTR didn't match the MX record, or vice versa, which didn't > sound like it should be a problem to me. You're correct - different A and MX records should not be a problem. > > According to openrbl.org, the only dnsbl you're on is blackholes.us > > - they maintain lists of IP blocks belonging to ISPs and Yipes > > (which is the ISP that 66.17.169.80 appears to belong to). Chances > > are pretty slim of making it off that blacklist, but I wouldn't have > > thought that Hotmail would be checking it, either. > > Doh! That's new. I'll mention it to my ISP, which is actually > mesanetworks.net, which for all I know may be leasing a block from > Yipes. AFAIK, hotmail is the only mail service that considers my > mail spam. Well, I have a faint memory of yahoo maybe having some > issues, but I'm not sure. > > Er, just to be clear, what do you mean by "belonging to ISPs and > Yipes"? Is Yipes not an ISP? Sorry, I need to get my brain in gear better. I meant to type "belonging to ISPs and Yipes is in it." > And now I'm really confused ... http://blackholes.us/ says: > > "Blackholes.us does not list spammers, spam supporters or vulnerable > hosts at the present time. These lists are meant to contain all known > networks assigned or allocated to the respective provider or > organizations within the respective country. Lists are created for > research purposes, primarily, and are made public for any use others > see fit." > > Soo ... these are just lists of IP addresses for certain ISPs and/or > locations, and if a company decides that ISP isn't worth dealing with, > they can block based on that? Interesting. I'm not sure how to find > out if it truly is a Yipes address or if maybe the info is outdated > ... but I've had this IP address for over a year, so I'm guessing the > info is right *sigh*. I originally thought it was a listing of IPs that those ISPs assign to "ordinary customers", so that mail servers can use them as a list of IPs to block and avoid getting virus/spam from infected Windoze machines. However, I now notice even the MXs for yipes.com are listed by blackholes.us. I think we can safely deduce that this is *not* your Hotmail problem. > > My only other thought would be having the hotmail users add your > > e-mail address to their address book, if they haven't already. AOL > > users are told to do this for e-mail they do not want marked as > > spam; maybe Hotmail is intelligent enough to watch for this too? > > This works, but only if I know to warn the person in the first place, > and assuming that I always use the same username. I'd rather just not > have my mail considered spam in the first place, as it isn't! True. This is one of my biggest complaints with over-zealous "spam protection". So, it looks like we've come back to SPF records. Hopefully they'll do the trick for you. > Thank you for all the ideas and info! Any time. Jacob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
