On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 08:16:03PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 07:39:34PM -0700, Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
> wrote:
> 
> > Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 08:22:28AM -0700, Jonathan Byrne wrote:
> > >> - With grub,  the boot process will never freeze at LI
> > >
> > > Sure, instead it'll freeze at stage 1.5.  Hardly an improvement.
> > 
> > But how often does that happen?  I've never seen it myself.
> 
> I have.
> 
> GRUB offers (advantage) the option to shuffle around partitions as
> they're visible to the OS.  Very useful if, say, you're dealing with a
> multi-boot system and didn't (or couldn't) put some lame-ass piss-poor
> excuse of an OS like, say, a DOS-based legacy MS Windows variant, on the
> first partition of the first IDE disk.

Mm?  I've got

        hda1 - swap
        hda2 - linux
        hda3 - dos/win3.1

and lilo has never had any trouble with that.

> 
> GRUB offers (disadvantage) the option to shuffle around partitions
> ....and for some reason this was getting returned to the partition table
> (working from memory here, possibly wrong on details) such that reality
> and tables no longer match.  
> 
> Great for shooting yourself in the foot.  Somewhat less useful for
> booting systems.
> 
> Result was a hang at the 1.5 bootloader stage.
> 
> Other than that:  yes, I prefer GRUB.  Greater flexibility, greater
> control, greater recoverability.
> 
>  
> > >> - You don't have to rerun grub every time you changed the config
> > >>   file
> > >
> > > Except that you do, unless you believe in symlinks for your
> > > kernels..
> > 
> > Since when?  I don't symlink my kernel and I don't rerun grub every
> > time I upgrade my kernel, and yet it Just Works(tm).
> 
> Your kernel install probably runs an 'update-grub', there's an apt
> config option for that.
> 
> Note that update-grub does *NOT* 're-run grub' in the same way that it's
> necessary to re-run 'lilo' after editing /etc/lilo.conf.  Rather,
> update-grub is editing /boot/grub/menu.lst.  GRUB itself does *not* need
> to be updated, it finds and respects the modifications to its config
> file.
>  
> [Deletia of correct and significant GRUB advantages].
> 
> 
> Peace.
> 
> -- 
> Karsten M. Self <kmself@ix.netcom.com>        http://kmself.home.netcom.com/
>  What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand?
>    Hollings:  bought, paid for, but couldn't deliver the CBDTPA:
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-- 
David Jardine

"Running Debian GNU/Linux and
loving every minute of it." -Sacher M.


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