hi ya deb/knop's :-) On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
> > But imho that is not true. the only differences between knoppix and debian > > are: > > 1. knoppix has the better hardware recognition. :-) -- aka better kernel management -- - without a good default kernel config, the hardware will NOT be recognized no matter how good kudzu and its derivatives are ( ie, aka, all modules turned on -- whether thats good or bad is ( a separate issue > > 2. knoppix has just many more packages installed than debian > > But after all, they are the same. I can make a system, total the same as it > > was a knoppix - system. that's probably true of most all distro to install apps into the other that was missing ( unsupported ) > 3) then after sometime they realize that knoppix is not as stable as > debian and so they want to shift to debian. what is the definition of "stable" ?? - debian has updates daily/hourly... - it's months between knoppix released iso .. ( 2004-12-08, 2004-08-16, 2004-05-17 ) - but, i'm not sure about their cvs update tree "things that work" with minimum keystrokes is (my) one definition > Sorry belahcene. I agree that just flaming without a solution is bad. always a bad idea on the flamer's part btw.. knoppix does NOT have a mailing list on their site(s) - just a silly "forum" ( aka messy/unreadable/searchable forums ) > > I thought, that the debian users are more tolerant than some others, but as > > we know now, thatīs just not the truth for all of us! most debianites are techies :-) vs non-techies or new windoze converts > So I just wanted to emphasize that knoppix is not debian but is debian > based. I dont know howmany agree with this opinion. what's to dispute/disagree, when it's "fact" :-) > But if more people > feel that we can allow knoppix related questions in debian-user, I can > change the FAQ. Afterall, the idea of FAQ is to help the end-user and > not to blame him for ignorance. since debian's kids ( knppix ) does not have an active mailing list, it'd be good to provide a safe haven ( safe mailing list ) for the "grandkids" > > I know, I am not more tolerant, than some others, but I am fed up with those > > boring "this is not the correct forum, list, ..." and RTFM. I just try to i say, if one says rtfm, they gain points by specifying what sections and pages to look at and other "howto docs", not a generic "rtfm" that most people would have hopefully read/skimmed a dzone times by the time they post to a public list > > help if I can and I am so glad, if someone can help me too, if I have > > problems... > > I am not sure I agree with the above statement. thats the whole point of the game ? > While RTFM is a bit > impolite, I do think asking knoppix-related questions on a debian > mailing list is a bad idea. I am not saying that there are no knoppix > experts on this list. But answering knoppix questions will not help > debian users or debian in any way. helping the "grandkids" ( knoppix uses ) will directly help "debian" c ya alvin