On Thursday 18 November 2004 13:28, Richard Lyons wrote: > On Thursday 18 November 2004 12:02, Maurits van Rees wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2004 at 10:34:41AM +0000, Richard Lyons wrote: > > > Do mutts and squirrels play together? > > > > > > Imap access has become sooo sloooow using kmail (seems even slower > since > > > my most recent upgrade on my desktop box - sid, BTW) and it is > > > sometimes as bad using squirrelmail. So I ssh-d to the server and > > > tried mutt. As far as I can tell, mutt cannot see subfolders that > > > squirrelmail and kmail can. > > > > I use both (almost exclusively mutt though) and don't seem to have > > those problems, but I haven't really checked. But your problem may be > > solved with the following snippet from the mutt doc: > > > > 6.3.85. imap_list_subscribed > > > > Type: boolean > > Default: no > > > > This variable configures whether IMAP folder browsing will look for > > only subscribed folders or all folders. This can be toggled in the > > IMAP browser with the toggle-subscribed function. > > Aah! That looks likely. I'll check when I get back later. THanks.
Update: I thought I had got mutt working, on the local box using imap (with the help of http://mutt.sourceforge.net/imap/ and other help found on google. But writing a muttrc from scratch is seriously unsympathetic, not to say hostile, and it would apparently take days to learn enough to get it running properly. Problems I encountered include: - The presence of sub-folders prevents mutt seeing mail in a folder, so for example I had to rename lists.du.keep to lists.du-keep so as to read the contents of lists.du. - Moving mail from INBOX to other folders fails for lack of permissions apparently. - Because of the subfolder problem, and because kmail/squirrelmail expect folders to be inside INBOX, the INBOX can only be read in mutt at startup. Once you move into another folder, returning to the top of the tree only shows the folders below it and not the contents of INBOX itself. So it is necessary to exit mutt and log on again to see new mail. - Mutt sends mail by some other route, evidently, because what I send from it disappears without trace. Well, probably there is a trace if I knew where to look. What I mean is, it doesn't default to something that works - Mutt's display gets out of sync by a line some of the time, so that it is easy to delete the wrong message by mistake. Even if you notice the error in time, it is difficult to scroll back to correct the problem because it skips the messages marked for deletion. - Mutt does not display accents pound signs, euro signs etc. I don't mind writing messages in vim, except that this too fails to insert accented characters correctly (usually adds a space after them, and refuses to produce some, such as Ç (capital c-cedilla, in case that fails to reproduce). An interesting thing that mutt revealed is that the certificate that Courier seems to have produced at install time with a generic domain name. Kmail and squirrelmail do not seem to worry about this. When I have time, I shall have to investigate how to correct it. All in all, an interesting experiment, but not a solution that is accessible for an inexpert user like me. So, for now at least, I shall have to return to kmail and squirrelmail. Both are slow and Kmail in particular takes several minutes to access the imap server sometimes, but at least they do work eventually. If they become too slow to work with, I shall need to return to POP3 mode (which entails copying my Maildir to a smartmedia card every time I travel). -- richard
