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Madhusudan Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Paul Johnson wrote:
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>> Madhusudan Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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>>> This is not a "fracture" or "duplication". To post to this group, I had
>>> to reveal my email address and go through a two email process of
>>> subscription.
>> 
>> No, you didn't.  It's an open list.
>> 
>
> It is not. I received the following message from a moderation robot when I
> tried to post a message to linux.debian.user :

Well, there's your first problem.  This isn't a newsgroup, the
newsgroup mirrors are generally considered archive-only.  You can post
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] without being subscribed.

> this hierarchy accepts posts only from registered users.
> You can register for posting by subscribing to the 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> mailing list. You can do so by sending a message with "subscribe" in 
> the
> body at the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address or by visiting
> http://lists.bofh.it/listinfo/linux-gate ."
>
> That does not sound very "open" to me.

That's not our problem, nor are we the proper party for you to air
your contempt.  It's clear to me that you are pissed off about the
policies of lists.bofh.it and not here.  So go send your love letter
to postmaster or [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>>> Those things might not be problematic for you, but as a long time user of
>>> the Usenet, I find these requirements onerous, and in the present day
>>> spam ridden Net experience, even inviting trouble, since this is a
>>> glorified mailing list.
>> 
>> http://www.interhack.net/pubs/munging-harmful/
>> 
>> You just need to manage your mail better and report email abuse if you
>> think that.
>
> I might have to do that for the spam that is everyone's lot these days. I
> see little reason to multiply my problems by revealing my email address
> (though I had to for this to get this message to this not so "open" list).

You didn't even read it, did you?  If you're having a spam problem,
you're not doing the right things to prevent it.  Reporting spam
*does* work.  Procmail *does* work.  Spamassassin *does* work.  I get
200~700 messages a day, maybe 10 spam.

> Especially as one can do it simply by using a
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] style email address in one's Usenet
> postings (possible elsewhere but not on this list that pretends to
> be a newsgroup), I see little point in going through all the extra
> spam that joining any mailing list entails these days.

But now that your address is out in the open, there's no real point in
munging it anyway, so what's the problem?


Drop the Californian attitude and get a clue.
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