Marc Wilson said: > Debian's X doesn't source those files because it's NOT SUPPOSED TO. Why > would it? Those are files related to shells.
Correct. X should not source shell profile files. Again, the correct fix is to start the session manager with: exec -l $SHELL -c "$STARTUP" This way the initial environment is *enhanced by the user's default shell*. So correct -- X does not source shell profiles. X just makes sure that when it's initialized the user's shell environment is also initialized. > If you're using startx to launch X, then they're already read. If you're > using a display manager (xdm/gdm/kdm/wdm/whatever), then there's no shell > running, so they shouldn't be read. To properly initialize the shell *environment* a login shell must be created when the user logs in. That's why it's called a "login shell". If you do not do this it is necessary to manually source the shell profile. Why would one NOT what to do this automatically? > Simple, huh? If it bothers you, set environment variables in ~/.xsession > like normal people do. No. ~/.xsession is not executed unless you select "Default System Session". So you cannot do this and have a consistent environment while switching between GNOME, KDE, or whatever. Does that seem "normal" to you? > There's no correct "fix" because nothing is broken. Please do not disparage a fix that only contributes positively -- to the best of my knowledge the fix presented has no negative impact on any other configuration. There are a large number Debian user's running X windows. With Debian, shells launched from an X windows session ignore /etc/profile and ~/.bash_profile. I don't know what the official reasoning is (I suspect there is no official reasoning) but this behavior is clearly unexpected as expressed by a few other people on this list. Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]