On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 03:28:40PM +0200, Jacques wrote:
> Keith O'Connell wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I have be badgered by my wife and daughter to learn how to pull tracks 
> >off their CD's into a format to play on their MP3 players, so I have 
> >been teaching myself over the weekend.
> >
> >I can pull from CD to Ogg on my machine and I can put tracks onto CD-R 
> >all very happily. The problem I have hit, and it must have been hit many 
> >times is the one of formats.
> >
> >We each have one of the following, that play the formats as shown;
> >
> >     Palm T3 (realplayer)    mp3    rm    rmj
> >     iRiver player         mp3    wma   asf
> >     Creative Rhomba         mp3    wma
> >
> >I have been up and down the listings in Aptitude, and I cannot find out 
> >how to stay within Debian and (i) rip to mp3, or better still (ii) 
> >convert ogg to mp3 for the players
> >
> >Is this a licensing thing? How do list members get files suitable for 
> >portable players that don't play ogg?
> >
> >Keith
> 
> http://www.ibiblio.org/tkan/xmcd/
> 
> pick up the software, and also the lame mp3 encoder. That's what I use 
> to rip cds directly to mp3. Also supports flac and ogg. This software is 
>  a cd reader and ripper. Very good GPL software.
> 
> ogg is a free yet more powerful compression algorithm for music. ogg is 
> therefore better than mp3 and produces smaller files. The pb is that 
> there are not so much players which can use this format. I've heard that 
> it is beginning to be supported. I do hope all players will be able to 
> read ogg, so that we don't have to bother with mp3 anymore.
> 

I'm told that the information squeezed out by ogg is not audible to humans.
And that the information squeezed out by mp3 compression is different, and
not audible to humans.
But when you ogg an mp3, you get both squeezed out, and the result *is*
audible.

But I haven't tried it out, and I'm part deaf so my personal experience
wouldn't mean much anyway.

-- hendrik.

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