[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2002 : Issue 283

Today's Topics:
Re: Whats happened to Arch web site [ Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
Re: Missing output - apt-file [ Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
Re: Ogg Vorbis encoder speed [ Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
Re: HD size limit ? [ Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
Re: xhost +localhost doesn't work [ Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
Re: OT: Different Embedded Linux que [ Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
Re: Shoutcast [ Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
Re: Missing readme for icecast [ Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
Re: VMware & Debian 3.0 [ Alexey Chetroi <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
Re: Newbie Questions [ Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
Re: Fonts for ascii characters [ Alan Chandler <alan@chandlerfamily. ]
Re: Unable to load any usable ISO885 [ Philippe Marzouk <pmarzouk@wanadoo. ]
Re: dhcp problem after recompiling k [ Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
Re: Happy Allhallowmas [ "G. Tawns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
Re: Unable to load any usable ISO885 [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christian Nybø) ]
Re: Fonts for ascii characters (PART [ Alan Chandler <alan@chandlerfamily. ]
Re: dhcp problem after recompiling k [ Auke Jilderda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
no cd-sound but es1370 works [ Christian Mascher <christian.masche ]


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Subject:
Re: Whats happened to Arch web site
From:
Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:56:29 +1100
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 08:53:03PM +0100, Alan Chandler wrote:

On Saturday 26 October 2002 8:24 pm, " Angles " Puglisi wrote:

Still alive, I use it.
http://www.fifthvision.net/open/bin/view/Arch/WebHome

Alan Chandler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote*:

...

Although debian unstable has a version 1.0pre16, it is dated May
2002 and all attempts to find Arch's home on the net seem to fail
http://www.regexps.com seems to be broken.

Anyone know why its moved there? - the comments on this site are very cryptic

I seem to remmber hearing that the guy was broke and unable to pay for
hosting anymore.

-rob


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Subject:
Re: Missing output - apt-file
From:
Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:55:14 +1100
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 11:09:15PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Well I searched on the debian website and got the same results. Find
it difficult to believe that none of the 2.2.x kernels have no support
for those that want to use there ide cdrom writers, so I presume that
the support for these devices is part of the base kernel and not
modularised.

Maybe the module just has a different name?

-rob


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Subject:
Re: Ogg Vorbis encoder speed
From:
Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:53:41 +1100
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 09:29:10AM -0500, Larry W. Irwin Sr. wrote:

Hi, I am trying out the jack cd ripper program and using oggenc as
the encoder. It reads music tracks at 5.0x but encodes at 0.1x. Is
that normal for ogg? Jack is set to use one encoder at a time.

Ogg does seem to be a bit slower than lame (at similar quality levels),
but not _that_ slow. My PIII-450 encodes at just about 1.0x, and I
don't think there's an order of magnitude speed difference between my
machine and yours. Are you running anything else CPU intensive while
you're encoding?

You might try downloading the source package for libvorbisenc and
building your own, optimised package and see if that helps.

-rob


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Subject:
Re: HD size limit ?
From:
Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Sun, 27 Oct 2002 01:59:07 +1000
To:
Debian User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 10:58:33AM -0400, Kevin Coyner wrote:

Is there a limit to the size of a IDE hard drive that Debian/Linux can
accomodate?

I.e. there are some pretty good deals now on 120GB IDE hard drives. I
just want to make sure I'm not buying something that I cannot use
'easily'.

IIRC, the upper limit with 2.4 kernels is 32-bit sector addressing:
512*2^32=2TB, which is far above the largest HDDs you can buy today, but
within the range of reason for RAID arrays. I'm fairly sure even this
limit has been removed in 2.5 though.

-rob


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Subject:
Re: xhost +localhost doesn't work
From:
Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:37:35 +1100
To:
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 06:32:53AM -0500, Larry Alkoff wrote:

Here is what I would expect to work: (I think it _used_ to work)
As user:
xhost +localhost
su
synaptic Now get error Synaptic: could not open display

Here is what works:
As user:
xhost + Opening up to the world
su
export DISPLAY=:0 I didn't use to do this - did I?
synaptic

Am I doing something wrong or did I break something?

It's Not A Bug, It's A Feature(TM). I'm not completely up on the whole
X auth thing, but I'm fairly sure this is how it's supposed to work.
Try setting the XAUTHORITY environment variable (after the su) to
/home/<user_running_X>/.Xauthority, and then run a program. That
_should_ work.

<explanation type="half-arsed">
The X security system requires a `magic cookie' before
you're allowed to connect to a running server. This cookie is stored in
~/.Xauthority when you start up X, and this location is exported in
XAUTHORITY environment variable. When you try to start a program, the
xlibs look at this environment variable, then try to read in the file,
then use the cookie to authenticate to the X server. If I run a program
as another (normal) user and try to connect to my X session, then they
either won't have the XAUTHORITY variable set, and thus be unable to
find my cookie, or else they won't have permission to read the file
(it's 600, by default). root can read any file on the system tho, so
it's just a matter of setting the XAUTHORITY variable to the location of
your cookie file. You shouldn't ever `xhost +', especially just for
running local programs as another user. You'll probably need to export
DISPLAY as well, so the program knows which display to connect to.
</explanation>


As a workaround I've installed sudo, added a group wheel and added myself to that group.
Now I can simply type
sudo synaptic
and it works fine without the need to use xhost.

Why don't you like using sudo? Seems to be a much easier solution, and
more secure to boot.

-rob


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Subject:
Re: OT: Different Embedded Linux question
From:
Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Sun, 27 Oct 2002 03:15:55 +1100
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 10:46:36AM -0700, nate wrote:

deFreese, Barry said:

First of all, my apologies for the OT question, we seem to be straying
quite a bit these days. Now for the WAY OT question:

We are running a lot of Symbol technologies scanners here in the
warehouse and I noticed that they are using DRDOS for the OS, running
Novell's free (old) IP stack. My thought was "I wonder if I could get an
embedded Linux running on this thing"? They have 128K EPROM that holds
the OS, BIOS, and terminal diagnostics, 640K of RAM and 256K of standard
non-volatile memory (apperently upgradeable to 1.2M). The one caveat is
that it would need a 5250 emulator as well and I have yet to find a 5250
emulator for Linux that works.

I've never heard of any linux kernel that could boot in less then, 2MB
of ram I think(maybe its 4MB).

128k EPROM doesn't sound like enough for even a kernel let alone some
userland stuff.

You could always use one of the really old Linux kernels, like 1.0.x old.
IIRC, Linus has even officially appointed a maintainer to keep things
`up to date'. Combined with busybox, you might get something going.

Even if you could get a kernel to build small enough to fit in the
EPROM, I don't think you're going to fit much of a userland in there.
Plus, a 32-bit, multi-processing, VM'ing Unix-like and POSIX-compatible
OS seems like a little bit of overkill for a scanner:) Of course,
you'll earn geek-cred up the wazoo if you got it to work.

Good luck, and keep us informed.

-rob


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Subject:
Re: Shoutcast
From:
Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:42:25 +1100
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 12:54:53PM +0200, Bache Kharazmi wrote:

hi

Anyone who've experience in sending shoutcast radio ?
I've been trying xmms-liveice but it sucks and make xmms crash.
any suggestions ?

Have you had a look at the icecast-server or libapache-mod-mp3 packages?

-rob


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Subject:
Re: Missing readme for icecast
From:
Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Sun, 27 Oct 2002 03:18:12 +1100
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 11:49:28AM -0700, Leo Spalteholz wrote:

Hi,
I wanted to set up an icecast server (icecast-server 1:1.3.11-4.3 in testing) and in the first configuration screen it says:
"Icecast has been compiled with encrypted passwords support. Plain text password consequently won't work. Please read the README.Debian file to learn how to generate encrypted passwords"
However there is no README.Debian file included in the package.
Is this a bug in the package?

Sure sounds like it. Use the `reportbug' program to, er, report the
bug.


Where can I get this file or other instructions on how to set up icecast in debian?

I guess your best bet, for now, is to visit the icecast homepage,
whereever that may be.

-rob


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Subject:
Re: VMware & Debian 3.0
From:
Alexey Chetroi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:32:46 +0200
To:
Debian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 12:55:38PM -0500, Greg Norris wrote:

From: Greg Norris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: VMware & Debian 3.0

Working great here... version 3.2 installed from the tarball.

On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 10:49:53AM +0200, Aedificator wrote:

Any experiences with Debian and WMware 3.X?

It works for me, beside one nasty problem: I have to reconfig
vmware (vmware-config.pl) upon every reboot. It is installed
from tarball in /usr/vmware and once compiled modules starts and
stops normally untill next reboot. I'm using kernel-image-2.4.18-686
devfs is also enabled. Anybody had the same problem?


Best regards,
Alexey Chetroi

---
Smile... Tomorrow will be worse. (c) Murphy's law


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Subject:
Re: Newbie Questions
From:
Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Sun, 27 Oct 2002 01:31:51 +1000
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 11:11:14PM -0700, C. Brewer wrote:

Anti-aliasing fonts and icons (through KDE), do I need it? What is the purpose? And if it's a good thing,where to find simple info? The technical advice on many subjects often leaves me bewildered:(

Fonts are (ideally) made up of nice geometric curves and so can be
scaled in size with no loss of quality. Your screen displays bitmaps
though, so they have to be converted before you can see them. This bit
is called `rasterisation' and is surprisingly tricky to do well.

Run xmag and look at some text on your screen. You'll notice that the
edge is blocky and uneven; this blockiness is called aliasing. There
are two ways to get rid of this blockiness: increase the resolution
(pixels/cm) of your display or hide it (anti-aliasing). Obviously, the
hiding method is a lot easier to do in software than the resolution
one:) So anti-aliasing software blends the edges of your text with the
background it's sitting on, making it look a _lot_ smoother, but
sometimes a bit smudgy. There are lots of ways to do this, but the best
method in common usage is patented by Apple and is thus unavailable to
Free software users.

There's lots of debate about AA these days. Some people love it, some
people hate it. If you're using KDE, then you can enable it in the
`Font' section of the Control Centre (IIRC, it's been a while...). If
you're using GNOME 1.4, install the `gdkxft-capplet' package and enable
AA in the Gdkxft section of the Control Panel. Give it a try, you might
like it. It's easy enough to disable, and it doesn't cause too much of
a slowdown on your system either.

You will need good quality fonts though; the best seem either MS's in
the msttfcorefonts package unfortunately, but they'll have to do until
some really good Free fonts appear.


Also noted that my system does not power down on halt. I changed my prefs in KDE to use /sbin/poweroff instead of /sbin/halt. After reading the man pages on poweroff, halt and reboot, I am left even more confused. The man pages say that when halt or poweroff is called from other than runlevels 0 or 6, it invokes shutdown instead. I have tried,as root and user to /sbin/halt -p, /sbin/poweroff and just plain poweroff, all ending with the system going through the halt process and stopping with the message : Power Down, without actually killing the power. Looking in my /etc/init.d/ I see the halt and reboot scripts, but I am lacking the equivalent for poweroff. Is this the
I think you just need to enable APM support. Add a line that says
append="apm=on"
to your lilo.conf, re-run lilo and reboot. It should (if your hardware
supports it) power itself off the next time you shutdown.

-rob


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Subject:
Re: Fonts for ascii characters
From:
Alan Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:39:56 +0000
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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On Sunday 27 October 2002 12:20 pm, Vincent Lefevre wrote:

On Sun, Oct 27, 2002 at 11:28:35 +0000, Alan Chandler wrote:

I have a strange problem with fonts, I would welcome any thoughts of
what is happening here.

Running in konsole with the "normal" font set

running pstree, the "|" and "-" characters that make up the tree
vertical and horizontal lines display fine on my machine but if I
ssh into my server all these characters appear wrong (mostly like a
foreign a - an a with an accent)

It seems that line-graphics characters are used instead and they do not
display correctly. You could try to modify the value of TERM.

what to? its set at xterm on both machines.

- -- Alan Chandler
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Subject:
Re: Unable to load any usable ISO8859-1 font
From:
Philippe Marzouk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:40:17 +0100
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Sun, Oct 27, 2002 at 12:53:42PM +0100, Christian Nybø wrote:

Hi,

xfontsel gives the following warnings:
Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859-1 font
Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset

xdvi gives the same errors and exits.

What information can I provide to help others help me out with this?

I had this problem after upgrading libc6, I exited X, stopped gdm, restarted the font server, killed processes which might have stayed from gnome (oafd, gconf) and restarted gdm and the problem disappeared.

HTH (if this is the same problem you get),
Philippe


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Subject:
Re: dhcp problem after recompiling kernel
From:
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:48:11 +0000
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Sun, Oct 27, 2002 at 01:26:31PM +0100, Auke Jilderda wrote:

Yup, that did the trick! Thanks a lot, I started to get a serious
headache from hitting the wall for hours. ;-)

Makes me wonder though: Why the heck does Woody default come with
dhclient if it doesn't even work with kernel 2.4? I'd suspect this is a
problem more people will run into.

woody's dhclient does work with 2.4. You did remember to include both
CONFIG_PACKET and CONFIG_FILTER in your locally-built kernel, didn't
you?



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Subject:
Re: Happy Allhallowmas
From:
"G. Tawns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Sun, 27 Oct 2002 06:53:41 -0600
To:
"debian-user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


*/Dear Bozena,
I recieved your message - - thank you. Please contact me again with your e-mail address. Thank you.
Gregg

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From: debian-user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Happy Allhallowmas
Date: Sunday, October 20, 2002 2:28 AM


/*

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/*
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/*
Subject:
Re: Unable to load any usable ISO8859-1 font
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christian Nybø)
Date:
27 Oct 2002 14:03:27 +0100
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

*/
/*

*/Philippe Marzouk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

/*

*/On Sun, Oct 27, 2002 at 12:53:42PM +0100, Christian Nybø wrote:
/*

*/Hi,

xfontsel gives the following warnings:
Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859-1 font
Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset

xdvi gives the same errors and exits.

What information can I provide to help others help me out with this?
/*

*/I had this problem after upgrading libc6, I exited X, stopped gdm, restarted the font server, killed processes which might have stayed from gnome (oafd, gconf) and restarted gdm and the problem disappeared.
/*

*/I followed those steps, but it does not solve the problem. Thanks anyway.

There are different fonts available on a debian system, such as
100dpi, speedo, truetype. How can I determine which type of font is
at fault here?
/*

*/
/*
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/*
Subject:
Re: Fonts for ascii characters (PARTIALLY SOLVED)
From:
Alan Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:06:38 +0000
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

*/
/*

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On Sunday 27 October 2002 11:28 am, Alan Chandler wrote:
/*

*/I have a strange problem with fonts, I would welcome any thoughts of what
is happening here.

Running in konsole with the "normal" font set

running pstree, the "|" and "-" characters that make up the tree vertical
and horizontal lines display  fine on my machine but if I ssh into my
server all these characters appear wrong (mostly like a foreign a - an a
with an accent)
/*

*/This seems to be related to locale. If I leave it set to en_GB then it does this, if I change it to C it works

/*

*/if I run dselect and move to the package selection screens all the "_"
characters in the section dividers show up as little square boxes. (but I
can type the same character in bash and it is echoed correctly)
/*

*/This still doesn't work
- -- Alan Chandler
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Subject:
Re: dhcp problem after recompiling kernel
From:
Auke Jilderda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
27 Oct 2002 14:10:06 +0100
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

*/
/*

*/Ofcourse I included CONFIG_PACKET and I tried both with and without
CONFIG_FILTER. None worked. Why would CONFIG_FILTER be required? It
seems unrelated to DHCP to me.


Auke

On Sun, 2002-10-27 at 13:48, Colin Watson wrote:
/*

*/woody's dhclient does work with 2.4. You did remember to include both
CONFIG_PACKET and CONFIG_FILTER in your locally-built kernel, didn't
you?

--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]


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Subject:
no cd-sound but es1370 works
From:
Christian Mascher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:28:09 +0100
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

*/
/*

*/Hi all,

I'm Debian Newbie (two weeks). This is my first message posted with
mutt, hoping I got exim and fetchmail etc. working yesterday (with
smarthost ISP).
As to the subject question: module es1370 is started at bootup and finds
the sound card (actually creative sound-blaster audiopci 64v). I can hear
some sounds in kde or gnome or even some weird noise ;-) when doing # cat /bin/ls > /dev/dsp
as someone suggested shortly, although the sound is always in a very low
volume. esd is running.
But I want to play an audio cd. Tried this first with gnome
cd-applet, but it doesn't do anything, not even eject etc. Never found a
KDE-CD-player (wasn't there one supplied a few years ago?). Then I
installed cdcd and started it with
# cdcd -d /dev/hdd (which is my CD-ROM-drive)
It does everything expected, ejects, shows me the tracks, even
starts playing (according to led) -- but I can't hear anything.
I think the problem is not the drive and not the cd (can listen to it
under win98) but somewhere in the sound-system.

I like working in console, so it would be cool to get this working.
Where could I look next?

cmasc
/*



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