Hi Dmitry,

In my previous mail I mentioned the JSON license which is not allowed in
> Debian. It looks like things got a bit better since then — it is still
> mentioned in LICENSE.md [1] but I cannot find the actual code.
>

Which is good, I presume.

> In this respect, it looks like arguments against packaging Mapbox GL
> module
> > of QtLocation are not linked anymore to the license nor inclusion of
> > third-party code. Instead, it is mainly related to the size of it, right?
>
> Maybe there are no more license problems, but the problems with inclusion
> of
> third-party code persist. Most of the deps/ directory [2] is third-party
> code,
> and the Qt build is using all of them [3].
>

Sorry, I missed those.


> The best practice in Debian is to package each of dependencies separately.
> It is obviously not achievable in this case. However, the situation when Qt
> bundles Mapbox and Mapbox bundles 17 other pieces of software is far from
> ideal. This is a dependency hell and hard to maintain.
>
> That is why I would prefer if at least Mapbox (together with its bundled
> stuff, maybe) was packaged separately from Qt Location. This way it would
> be
> much easier to adopt to its build system, track upstream bugs, backport
> patches, etc.
>
> I tried to find the difference between upstream version and Qt version. The
> latter claims to be based on upstream commit 377a6e42d687c419 [1]. However,
> the diff between that commit and qt-staging branch is:
>
> 6195 files changed, 730722 insertions(+), 645574 deletions(-)
>
> This is a huge diff and it would be a pain to maintain this branch. For
> some
> reason Qt does not use merges or rebases on master branch, so it is even
> harder to track what they changed. If a bug is fixed on upstream branch,
> how
> will be cherry-pick the fix?
>

As far as I understood from following these Qt releases - they have Qt team
which manually syncs the source of the master branch to the one in Qt. I
don't know why they selected to do so, I presume there was some important
reason why the didn't synced the branches on commit level. As a result, you
have issues with comparison.


> > When using Qt, I would expect that all its parts (or open-source parts)
> are
> > available on the platforms that package it. So, when I want to run a code
> > that is calling Mapbox GL plugin, it should be possible if QtLocation >=
> > 5.9 is packaged. Took some time to dig out why its not there on
> > Debian-based distros and it seems now that the reason which holds is
> just a
> > size, not license. I don't think it is a valid point to drop a part of it
> > just due to the size. In this respect, it looks like a bug in packaging.
>
> This is a valid expectation. In an ideal world we would provide this plugin
> in our packaging. However, as I explained above it would be difficult to
> maintain it as is, and both Lisandro and I have very little time to do it
> properly.
>
> Some time ago people convinced us to package Qt WebEngine that bundles
> Chromium, and I now have to spend a lot of time trying to figure out build
> failures, copyright issues, etc. with each new release of it. I do not have
> time for another monster like that.
>

Well, compared to WebEngine probably anything is teeny-tiny. But I
understand the reservations regarding it.

[...]

Can you please file a bug against qtlocation-opensource-src source,
> explaining
> your situation? This way if things change in future (e.g. the code becomes
> cleaner, we suddenly have more time, we find another volunteer to do the
> work,
> …) it would be easier to remember about it.
>
>
Yes, will do.

Thank you very much for detailed replies and constructive discussion!

Rinigus

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