On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 16:43:50 -0300 Lisandro =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dami=E1n_Nicanor_P=E9rez?= Meyer <perezme...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry, but stating that we do not test what we ship is actually not polite at all.

That's an expression of a suspicion based on observation. It's being reinforced by you words (see below). You could deny it but calling it an impolite statement is meaningless, at best.


> We the maintainers consider that it's useful enough to start...


So, you mean it wasn't a mistake and will be continued for KDE in the future ? You talk about "We, the maintainers" as if it's the rule. It isn't, of course. For example, kernel maintainers don't push every kernel version into Testing. On the contrary, there are several versions that never come to Testing. The same is true for many other packages.


> ...but they will never get ironed out if we don't push it to the archive.


Could you please explain how they're "ironed" when they're inflicted on the users of Debian Testing? Weren't the users of Debian Unstable enough for that "ironing"? There is a difference between the Testing and Unstable repositories.


> I'm using it even on my $job machine.


You mean the maintaining job? Yes, of course, you SHOULD have a Debian Unstable for THAT job. By "use" I meant ordinarily using your operating system for any job. An environment, whose CPU usage goes high for no good reason, whose network manager can't remember any password, whose custom shortcuts and mouse gestures are missing, whose file manager crashes once in a while,... is not for use yet. There's nothing complicated about the meaning of the word "use" here. Or do you want to play with words instead of reasoning, as you tried to do in the case of the word "polite", or in another place, where you wrote about Qt4's being "dead"?


> If you don't like that, please, use stable.


Totally irrelevant to the discussion. Criticizing this way of maintaining KDE/Qt doesn't have anything to do with disliking Debian Testing. Red herring?!


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