On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 07:09:11PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > Package: okular > Version: 4:4.2.2-2 ...
Hi John, I hope at least you read this email and get the whole map. Why this bug report is tagged as wontfix and why your patch won't be applied. You have got answers from several people from the KDE team and you seemed to stick only to the aggressive ones (i guess because they annoyed you). okular belongs to the official KDE modules, in Debian those modules are maintained for a variable group of people. No everybody is the same active, and we usually have time with more and less activity. This is good because in theory there is always somebody around, the truth is the team is always lacking of people. We all have very different points of view, and we almost never agree on something, and always have to search for some compromise. This time we all agreed on something after a lot of time, this was nice, thanks for this :D About this option in okular, call it protection bit, DRM or whatever you want, there are 2 options: enabled or disabled. I think this is clear for everybody. And you have to choose one. Personally, I think there are good reasons for having it enabled and for having it disabled, like it happens with any setting in KDE (in some cases it is more complicated because you do not choose between 2 options, more like 10). This is usually just a technical decision, and in KDE you always can change this options, but here it got mixed with something social, people's feeling towards DRM or copy restrictions. They exist and they are there, when we disagree against such laws, we should try to not get them in our respective countries (if you are lucky enough to live in a democratic country). We tend to respect upstream's defaults, this is important for consistency across distros, and we patch only what is needed for fixing big bugs or integration with the Debian system (in the sense of using proper paths for stuff, libraries that are somehow different in debian, changes for archs we support, ...). I think we are one of the distros that is patching less. I am sorry, but I am not going to change a default because you think something should be differently. I also think that having konsole by default with limited scroll is a bad idea and i do not patch away. I do not feel empowered to decide what is better or worse for the users, so I will keep upstream defaults except when there is a good reason for change them, and there is not good reason here. I think this copy restrictions stuff could be improved in okular itself, because software _always_ can be improved, but I do not know how. So if you have a good idea, report it upstream. If the idea is good, okular authors will be glad to improve their software. Debian will carry with that. Finally, today I have seen you quoting in IRC the usual "Our priorities are our users and free software". John, if you are really worried about our users, you should wonder why Debian skip the release 4.2.3 of KDE or if your KDE team needs helps with upcoming 4.3. That will serve all of the users. Ana -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qt-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
