Important information: this bug is known upstream! See http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88401 http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86426
The problem seems to be not with X-windows but with arts; the work-around described in the upstream bug reports works nicely around the problem. On Sun, 19 Sep 2004, Riku Voipio wrote: > > This is probably an X or kernel bug, right? even if kdm included buggy > code, the x server should not kill the machine for it. You are formally right, of course, but that is not very interesting as long as we can't point out the place where X or kernel fails us. Or artsd, which right now seems to be the case. > Peder Wrote: > > To get a stable (!) "unstable" system with KDE 3.3, no freezing > > problem at logout and no problems with "tcsh" I instead implement the > > solution to the "tcsh" problem described in bug 266814. > > You mean, that by fixing the Xsession, kde no longer crashes on logout? Yeah, I was pretty surprised myself. But you know how it is - a bug of this kind, occurring along the interface between two complex systems, can come and go for the most obscure reasons. The Xsession fix probably changed some timing; it certainly didn't fix the bug directly. > Xsession is known to be broken in unstable at the moment, and it can > be fixed either by replacing /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession with > --snip-- > #!/bin/sh > > . /etc/X11/Xsession > --snip-- > Or with patch in > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=265865&msg=22 That is not what I wrote: to get the work-around effect I had to use the fix to the Xsession bug described in 266814. ----- Be that is it may, I must correct my posting as of August 25: fixing the Xsession bug did not entirely work around the crashing bug. The bug is still there, only now it only happens when I log out and shut down in one operation (KDE Menu/Logout/Turn of computer). If I do it in two operations (KDE Menu/Logout/End current Session, the shutdown system from KDM "Menu" buttom, the system does not crash. But: if I use the fix described in the upstream bug reports (Control Center/Sound & Multimedia/Sound System/disable "run with highest possible priority"), the crashing bug disappears for good. Riku, you ask for more information. I am willing to help, bug I am no expert in KDE/artsd interaction. If you can suggest specific things to do that can provide you with useful information, I am more than willing to do it. After all, the bug is quite simple to reproduce on several of my systems - I just have the re-enable "run with highest possible priority". best regards -- Peder Chr. Nørgaard Senior System Developer, M. Sc. Ericsson Telebit A/S tel: +45 30 91 84 31 Skanderborgvej 232 fax: +45 89 38 51 01 DK-8260 Viby J, Denmark e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (old e-mail 2000-2003: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) (old e-mail 1992-2000: [EMAIL PROTECTED])