* Zygo Blaxell at Work [Tue, 04 May 2004 12:23:56 -0400]: > The behavior seems to be defined more by the toolkit the application > was written with than whether the buttons in question are useful. > For example all Tk apps I've tried so far lack the maximize button in > kwin but get the maximize button in all other window managers that I've > tried (except of course the WM's that don't have maximize buttons at all).
Does the maximize button actually work? I've tried texdoctk under sawfish and yes, there was a maximize button, but it didn't work. That's why I say not displaying some buttons is a good thing, if they can't be used. > I've tried several WMs and the only behavior consistent with kwin is that > gnome-xbill doesn't get a maximize button on either kwin or metacity. > This makes sense as the gnome-xbill window is not resizeable at all. And the gnome-xbill app clearly states so. I *think* the applicable standard is <http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/wm-spec/>: Fixed size windows Windows can indicate that they are non-resizable by setting minheight = maxheight and minwidth = maxwidth in the ICCCM WM_NORMAL_HINTS property. The Window Manager MAY decorate such windows differently. > > In previous versions, kwin always showed > > all three buttons, but you would find that clicking them would do > > nothing depending on the app. > This is incorrect. Clicking the min/max buttons worked as expected > until kwin 3.2.2. I don't think clicking the maximize button in gnome-xbill would do a thing, but hey, maybe I'm misremembering. > My understanding of the protocol involved is that... My understanding of the protocol involved is practically null, so I might be completely wrong. But I'm pretty sure of what I'm saying. > I think that most of the applications I am having problems with were > written before the option to not display WM buttons was widely supported > in window managers, if not before the option was even defined, so I > don't see how the application could be explicitly requesting anything > of the sort. It's a possibility. Really don't know when was this introduced. But xload seems a pretty old app and it manages not to get minimized ever. I definitely would appreciate some insight wrt this. cu -- Adeodato Simó EM: asp16 [ykwim] alu.ua.es | PK: DA6AE621 When you don't know what to do, walk fast and look worried.
