Hi,
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 08:47:27PM +0100, Justin B Rye wrote:
> > @@ -89,12 +85,13 @@
> > Architecture: all
> > Depends: openoffice.org-l10n-as-in, openoffice.org-l10n-bn,
> > openoffice.org-l10n-gu-in, openoffice.org-l10n-hi-in,
> > openoffice.org-l10n-ml-in, openoffice.org-l10n-mr-in,
> > openoffice.org-l10n-or-in, openoffice.org-l10n-pa-in,
> > openoffice.org-l10n-ta-in, openoffice.org-l10n-te-in, ${misc:Depends}
> > Recommends: ttf-indic-fonts
> > -Description: full-featured office productivity suite -- Indic language
> > packages
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> > +Description: OOo suite - Indic-script language packs
> > OpenOffice.org is a full-featured office productivity suite that provides
> > a near drop-in replacement for Microsoft(R) Office.
> > .
> > This package is a metapackage installing l10n packages for all available
> > - indic languages.
> > + Indic-script languages.
>
> Tamil and Telugu aren't "Indic languages", they're Dravidian
> languages. Unfortunately we can't just substitute "Indian" either -
> Bangla is Indic but not Indian.
>
> Of course this is really just another case of confusion between
> writing systems and languages. This is a metapackage for
> localisation in Indic *scripts*. [...]
That was not the intention. It a metapackage for "languages spoken
in India". I don't care about what their script is or whether it's
actually a "Indic language" from language definition.
> That's why it excludes Urdu (closely akin to Hindi, but written in an
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> Arabic-based script).
No, it excludes Urdu because there's no Urdu l10n package.
> > This package contains the "Galaxy" symbol style from Sun, normally used on
> > - MS Windows (tm) and when not using GNOME or KDE, needs to be manually
> > - enabled in the OpenOffice.org option menu.
> > + MS Windows and outside GNOME or KDE, which needs to be manually enabled in
> > + the OpenOffice.org option menu.
>
> There's already a "Microsoft(R)" in the previous paragraph, so drop
> the inaccurate "(tm)". Also fix the syntax. But in what sense is
> this a "default style" if it needs to be manually enabled?
As it is the default style if you don't use KDE or GNOME. OOo detects
the desktop itself.
KDE: Crystal (KDE3) / Oxygen (KDE4)
GNOME: Tango
others not detected as either of them: Galaxy
> > + This package contains the GTK plug-in for drawing OOo's widgets with
> > + GTK+ and a GTK/GNOMEish File Picker when running under GNOME. It also
> > + contains a Quickstarter for the "notification area".
>
> Fixing some capitalisation and hyphenating "plug-in".
>
> [...]
> > - This package contains the GNOME VFS support and a GConf backend.
> > + This package contains the GNOME VFS support and a GConf back-end.
>
> Likewise standardising on hyphenated "back-end".
Where is that standardized please? back-end looks awful. I can't barely
live with plug-in...
> > - You can extend the functionality of this by installing these packages:
> > - .
> > - * openoffice.org-evolution: Evolution addressbook support
> > - * evolution
> > + You can extend its functionality by installing these packages:
> > + * evolution: groupware suite;
> > + * openoffice.org-evolution: Evolution addressbook support.
>
>
> Alphabetical order, and including an explanation of what Evolution
> actually is (since the name conveys nothing).
People who use Evolution know.
> > - Spelling dictionaries, hyphenation patterns, thesauri and help are not
> > + Spelling dictionaries, hyphenation patterns, thesaurus files and help are
> > not
> > included in this package. There are some available in separate packages
> > (myspell-*, openoffice.org-hyphenation-*, openoffice.org-thesaurus-*,
> > - openoffice.org-help-*)
> > + openoffice.org-help-*).
> > .
> > If you just want to be able to spellcheck etc. in other languages, you can
> > - install extra dictionaries/hyphenation patterns/thesauri independently of
> > + install extra dictionaries/hyphenation patterns/thesaurus files
> > independently of
> > the language packs.
>
> Never use "thesauri" unless you specifically intend to start an
> argument about plural morphology.
Thesauri is the correct plural.
> [...]
> > @@ -924,23 +908,24 @@
> > Suggests: hunspell-dictionary-en-gb | myspell-dictionary-en-gb,
> > openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-gb, openoffice.org2-thesaurus-en-gb,
> > openoffice.org-help-en-gb
> > Conflicts: openoffice.org-core (<< ${base-version}), openoffice.org-core
> > (>= ${base-version}.1), openoffice.org2-l10n-en-gb
> > Replaces: openoffice.org2-l10n-en-gb
> > -Description: full-featured office productivity suite -- English_british
> > language package
> > +Description: OOo suite - British English language pack
>
> There's no such language as English_british. I would suggest
All of them are autogenerated and can handle only stuff without spaces.
> > -Description: full-featured office productivity suite -- Norwegian language
> > package
> > +Description: OOo suite - Norwegian Bokmal language pack
>
> The English name of the dominant written standard in Norway is
> "Norwegian Bokmal" (or "Bokmål", but we'll get away with ASCII).
> See following.
>
> [...]
> > -Description: full-featured office productivity suite -- Norwegian_nynorsk
> > language package
> > +Description: OOo suite - Norwegian Nynorsk language pack
>
> The minority written standard for Norwegian.
So what is wrong here? Nowergian is the dominiant one (Bokmal) and
_nynorsk is the extra one. What are you complaining about?
> > -Description: full-featured office productivity suite -- Portuguese
> > language package
> > +Description: OOo suite - European Portuguese language pack
>
> Versus:
>
> > -Description: full-featured office productivity suite --
> > Portuguese_brazilian language package
> > +Description: OOo suite - Brazilian Portuguese language pack
>
> Now that there's room, be clear.
No. Portuguese per definition is European Portuguese. (pt neither
has pt-EU). Just because Brazil has their own version is not something
where we need to add stuff for -pt uselessly.
> > -Description: full-featured office productivity suite --
> > Chinese_traditional language package
> > +Description: OOo suite - Traditional Chinese language pack
>
> Another one that's just a difference of standard writing systems,
> not languages.
They're two different locales everywhere.
> > -Description: full-featured office productivity suite -- English_american
> > help
> > +Description: OOo suite - American English help
>
> If there was a separate openoffice.org-l10n-en-ca then I suppose
> Canadians would be entitled to quibble about whether "American" was
> specific enough, but never mind.
Would you like English_usamerican better? I don't.
> [...]
> > -Description: OpenOffice.org UNO runtime environment -- public shared
> > libraries
> > +Description: OpenOffice.org UNO runtime environment - shared libraries
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>
> Just shortening it; would you get packages of private shared
> libraries?
Why not? OOo is full of private libraries? What you do think e.g
-evolution actually is?
> > -Description: OpenOffice.org UNO runtime environment -- public shared
> > library debug symbols
> > +Description: OpenOffice.org UNO runtime environment - debug symbols
>
> Shrtn!
Buggy. This is not ure-dbg. This is uno-libs3-dbg. Just for the libs.
What you describe here'd be ure-dbg.
> > - This package contains the KDE plugin for drawing OOo's widgets with
> > + This package contains the KDE plug-in for drawing OOo's widgets with
> > KDE/Qt and a KDEish File Picker when running under KDE.
> > - You can extend the functionality of this by installing these packages:
> > - .
> > - * konqueror / kmail
> > - * openoffice.org-kab: KDE Addressbook support
> > + You can extend its functionality by installing these packages:
> > + * konqueror/kmail;
> > + * openoffice.org-kab: KDE Addressbook support.
>
> Adjusting the punctuation. Why do konqueror/kmail share a bullet?
Because they're what OOo opens for mailto: and other URLS when it is under
KDE. That's different from -kab where you need to select kab as data source.
Grüße/Regards,
Rene
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