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From: Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: openoffice.org-mimelnk: Mimelnk package should suggest OOo, not 
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Package: openoffice.org-mimelnk
Version: 1.0.99+1.1rc3-1
Severity: normal

[ I've already chatted with Rene on IRC about this, but I'm filing a
report so that myself and koffice users can more easily track the issue. ]

Hi.  Currently openoffice.org-mimelnk recommends openoffice.org.
According to debian policy (7.2):

  The Recommends field should list packages that would be found together
  with this one in all but unusual installations.

  [Suggests] is used to declare that one package may be more useful with one
  or more other ... but that installing this one without them is
  perfectly reasonable.

The mimelnk files basically inform KDE of which files are in fact OOo
files so that it knows that they can be opened in OOo, KOffice or other
OOo-aware apps.  This is basically a convenience for users and does not
require OOo in any way (e.g., if you are importing OOo docs into kword).
Indeed it is quite common for users to have many more registered
mimetypes than apps that can handle them.

In this sense it seems that suggests, not recommends, is the correct
form of dependency to use.

The use of recommends does in fact have deeper ramifications for users
of package management tools that enforce recommendations (which IMHO is
not such a bad thing since - as policy says - users should have recommends
installed in all but unusual situations).  An example of such a tool is
dselect (AIUI, dselect enforces recommends but not suggests).

For these users, installing the very small mimelnk package will cause
the installation of the very large OOo package.  Furthermore, for
koffice (which I maintain), I have koffice-data recommends
openoffice.org-mimelnk since these mimelnk files help the various
import/export filters run smoothly.  In this case, installing any
koffice application would have the effect of installing all of OOo as
well.

For this reason I would appreciate notification if you don't plan to
change the dependency so that I can downgrade the koffice recommends to
a suggests before sarge starts to freeze - there are many people using
dselect, and an unintentional OOo installation is quite a hit on both disk
space and bandwidth.  Though for the reasons described earlier it does
seem that changing OOo-mimelnk's recommends to a suggests is the correct
solution.

Thanks - Ben. :)

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Source: openoffice.org
Source-Version: 1.1.0-1

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
openoffice.org, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:

openoffice.org-bin_1.1.0-1_i386.deb
  to pool/contrib/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-bin_1.1.0-1_i386.deb
openoffice.org-crashrep_1.1.0-1_i386.deb
  to pool/contrib/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-crashrep_1.1.0-1_i386.deb
openoffice.org-gnome_1.1.0-1_i386.deb
  to pool/contrib/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-gnome_1.1.0-1_i386.deb
openoffice.org-l10n-ar_1.1.0-1_all.deb
  to pool/contrib/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-l10n-ar_1.1.0-1_all.deb
openoffice.org-l10n-ca_1.1.0-1_all.deb
  to pool/contrib/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-l10n-ca_1.1.0-1_all.deb
openoffice.org-l10n-cs_1.1.0-1_all.deb
  to pool/contrib/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-l10n-cs_1.1.0-1_all.deb
openoffice.org-l10n-da_1.1.0-1_all.deb
  to pool/contrib/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-l10n-da_1.1.0-1_all.deb
openoffice.org-l10n-de_1.1.0-1_all.deb
  to pool/contrib/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-l10n-de_1.1.0-1_all.deb
openoffice.org-l10n-el_1.1.0-1_all.deb
  to pool/contrib/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-l10n-el_1.1.0-1_all.deb
openoffice.org-l10n-en_1.1.0-1_all.deb
  to pool/contrib/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-l10n-en_1.1.0-1_all.deb
openoffice.org-l10n-es_1.1.0-1_all.deb
  to pool/contrib/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-l10n-es_1.1.0-1_all.deb
openoffice.org-l10n-fi_1.1.0-1_all.deb
  to pool/contrib/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-l10n-fi_1.1.0-1_all.deb
openoffice.org-l10n-fr_1.1.0-1_all.deb
  to pool/contrib/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-l10n-fr_1.1.0-1_all.deb
openoffice.org-l10n-it_1.1.0-1_all.deb
  to pool/contrib/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-l10n-it_1.1.0-1_all.deb
openoffice.org-l10n-ja_1.1.0-1_all.deb
  to pool/contrib/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-l10n-ja_1.1.0-1_all.deb
openoffice.org-l10n-ko_1.1.0-1_all.deb
  to pool/contrib/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-l10n-ko_1.1.0-1_all.deb
openoffice.org-l10n-nl_1.1.0-1_all.deb
  to pool/contrib/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-l10n-nl_1.1.0-1_all.deb
openoffice.org-l10n-pl_1.1.0-1_all.deb
  to pool/contrib/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-l10n-pl_1.1.0-1_all.deb
openoffice.org-l10n-pt-br_1.1.0-1_all.deb
  to pool/contrib/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-l10n-pt-br_1.1.0-1_all.deb
openoffice.org-l10n-pt_1.1.0-1_all.deb
  to pool/contrib/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-l10n-pt_1.1.0-1_all.deb
openoffice.org-l10n-ru_1.1.0-1_all.deb
  to pool/contrib/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-l10n-ru_1.1.0-1_all.deb
openoffice.org-l10n-sk_1.1.0-1_all.deb
  to pool/contrib/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-l10n-sk_1.1.0-1_all.deb
openoffice.org-l10n-sv_1.1.0-1_all.deb
  to pool/contrib/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-l10n-sv_1.1.0-1_all.deb
openoffice.org-l10n-tr_1.1.0-1_all.deb
  to pool/contrib/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-l10n-tr_1.1.0-1_all.deb
openoffice.org-l10n-zh-cn_1.1.0-1_all.deb
  to pool/contrib/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-l10n-zh-cn_1.1.0-1_all.deb
openoffice.org-l10n-zh-tw_1.1.0-1_all.deb
  to pool/contrib/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-l10n-zh-tw_1.1.0-1_all.deb
openoffice.org-mimelnk_1.1.0-1_all.deb
  to pool/contrib/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-mimelnk_1.1.0-1_all.deb
openoffice.org_1.1.0-1.diff.gz
  to pool/contrib/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org_1.1.0-1.diff.gz
openoffice.org_1.1.0-1.dsc
  to pool/contrib/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org_1.1.0-1.dsc
openoffice.org_1.1.0-1_all.deb
  to pool/contrib/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org_1.1.0-1_all.deb
openoffice.org_1.1.0.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/contrib/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org_1.1.0.orig.tar.gz



A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to [EMAIL PROTECTED],
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

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Chris Halls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (supplier of updated openoffice.org package)

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Format: 1.7
Date: Thu,  2 Oct 2003 20:04:15 +0200
Source: openoffice.org
Binary: openoffice.org-l10n-nl openoffice.org-mimelnk openoffice.org-l10n-de 
openoffice.org-bin openoffice.org-l10n-ja openoffice.org-l10n-ru 
openoffice.org-l10n-pl openoffice.org-l10n-zh-cn openoffice.org-crashrep 
openoffice.org-l10n-fr openoffice.org-l10n-tr openoffice.org-l10n-zh-tw 
openoffice.org-l10n-pt-br openoffice.org-l10n-da openoffice.org-l10n-sk 
openoffice.org-l10n-ca openoffice.org-l10n-cs openoffice.org-l10n-ko 
openoffice.org-l10n-fi openoffice.org-l10n-ar openoffice.org-gnome 
openoffice.org-l10n-it openoffice.org-l10n-pt openoffice.org-l10n-sv 
openoffice.org-l10n-el openoffice.org openoffice.org-l10n-es 
openoffice.org-l10n-en
Architecture: all i386 source 
Version: 1.1.0-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian OpenOffice Team <debian-openoffice@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Chris Halls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Description: 
 openoffice.org - high-quality office productivity suite
 openoffice.org-bin - OpenOffice.org office suite binary files
 openoffice.org-crashrep - OpenOffice.org crash reporting tool
 openoffice.org-gnome - GNOME desktop integration for OpenOffice.org
 openoffice.org-l10n-ar - Arabic language package for openoffice.org
 openoffice.org-l10n-ca - Catalan language package for openoffice.org
 openoffice.org-l10n-cs - Czech language package for openoffice.org
 openoffice.org-l10n-da - Danish language package for openoffice.org
 openoffice.org-l10n-de - German language package for openoffice.org
 openoffice.org-l10n-el - Greek language package for openoffice.org
 openoffice.org-l10n-en - English (US) language package for openoffice.org
 openoffice.org-l10n-es - Spanish language package for openoffice.org
 openoffice.org-l10n-fi - Finnish language package for openoffice.org
 openoffice.org-l10n-fr - French language package for openoffice.org
 openoffice.org-l10n-it - Italian language package for openoffice.org
 openoffice.org-l10n-ja - Japanese language package for openoffice.org
 openoffice.org-l10n-ko - Korean language package for openoffice.org
 openoffice.org-l10n-nl - Dutch language package for openoffice.org
 openoffice.org-l10n-pl - Polish language package for openoffice.org
 openoffice.org-l10n-pt - Portuguese language package for openoffice.org
 openoffice.org-l10n-pt-br - Brazilian Portuguese language package for 
openoffice.org
 openoffice.org-l10n-ru - Russian language package for openoffice.org
 openoffice.org-l10n-sk - Slovak language package for openoffice.org
 openoffice.org-l10n-sv - Swedish language package for openoffice.org
 openoffice.org-l10n-tr - Turkish language package for openoffice.org
 openoffice.org-l10n-zh-cn - Chinese (simplified) language package for 
openoffice.org
 openoffice.org-l10n-zh-tw - Chinese (traditional) language package for 
openoffice.org
 openoffice.org-mimelnk - OpenOffice.org MIME bindings for KDE
Closes: 180973 206238 207714 207774 208841 210831 211398 212157 213309
Changes: 
 openoffice.org (1.1.0-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream version: 1.1.0 [CH, RE]
   * package now builds on powerpc; issue a warning is a file is found
     which could lead to ppc builds fail (closes: #206238) [RE], thanks
     Kevin Hendricks for pointing the problem out.
   * more Ximian merge:
     + print-fontconfig [MM], padmin-nofontconfig [CH]: use fontconfig for font
       configuration.  Remove font dialog from padmin.
     + add Ximian iconset (except the intro and about icons..) [RE, MK]
       added patches:
       + gui-icon-composite: Compositing fixes for alpha bg's
       + gui-tbx-ctrl-bg
       + gui-tbx-new-size
       + gui-new-icons: fix 'new' button sizing IZ#15208
     + glyph-cache-speedup [MM]: cache last glyph IZ#15237
     + print-dialog [MM]: dialog remembers save path & type correctly IZ#17967
     + print-error [MM]: Warn the user about printer errors IZ#17966
     + gui-ft-pt-not-pixel, gui-ft-use-system-font [MM]: Fix some font sync
       settings brokeness IZ#15507,#16683
     + capitalization [MM]: Turn off auto caps in impress
   * Updated patches:
     + obsolete parts of doc-defaults.diff removed in favour of being
       configurable through app-compatible.diff (closes: #212157) [MM]
   * New patches:
     + gui-menu-new-wizard-translation [MK]: Translate File->New, ->Wizard
       menus when using langpacks (closes: #180973)
     + use-unzip-not-jar [RE]: use unzip for unpacking in dictionaries,
       not jar xf...
     + debian-splash [RE]: use a "Debian splashscreen" and modify about
       information accordingly..
     + setup-in-bind-mount [CH]:  Work around 'absolute programpath cannot be
       found.' error when running setup in a bind mount IZ#20459
     + build-sparc-boost [CH]: fix atomic dec/inc for Sparc IZ#15502
   * debian/rules:
     + fix typos, makes mozilla autodisable actually work, thanks
       Jerome Warnier [RE]
     + move installing of the mozilla files into debian/rules surrounded
       by a conditional... [RE]
     + add pieces to uudecode the Ximian icons and to restore the old ones
       after the build.. [MK, RE]
     + make apply.pl executable in patch.unapply too... (closes: #213309) [MK]
     + put splashscreen modified for Debian as uuencoded xcf in -- uudecode it
       and convert it to bmp during build (thanks Alexander Wirt for his
       xcftobmp) [RE]
     + split install target into install-arch and install-indep parts [CH]
   * debian/openoffice.org{,-bin}.install:
     + remove mozilla files [RE]
     + install usr/lib/openoffice/share/gallery/htmlexpo/*.png [MK]
     + move OpenSymbol font to fontconfig managed directory
       /usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice [CH]
   * debian/control.in:
     + Build-Depends:
       - allow libpng2-dev, too - thanks again nobse (closes: #207774) [RE]
       - add imagemagick for the icon stuff [MK]
       - add xutils [RE]
       - add binutils (>= 2.14.90.0.6-3) for sparc because ld crashes
         on earlier versions (see bug#205548) [CH]
       - add libfontconfig1-dev  for new fontconfig support [CH]
       - add libc6 (>= 2.3.2-1) for powerpc [RE]
       - remove bzip2, not needed anymore [RE]
       - add gimp-perl | gimp1.2-perl for converting the splash screen [RE]
       - readd xvb, xbase-clients and xfonts-base [RE]
     + remove libc6 (<< 2.2.5-13) from Build-Conflicts: [RE]
     + openoffice.org-mimelnk: only suggest openoffice.org (closes: #211398) 
[RE]
     + fix Architecture: of -crashrep and -gnome [RE]
     + Tighten inter-package version dependencies to >> 1.1.0 [CH]
   * debian/po:
     + add japanese debconf template translation, thanks Kenshi Muto
       (closes: #207714) [RE]
     + add french debconf template translation, thanks Michel Grentzinger
       (closes: #208841) [RE]
     + add brazilian portugese debconf template translation, thanks
       Andre Luis Lopes (closes: #210831) [RE]
   * debian/scripts:
     + add xcftobmp [RE]
   * debian/scripts/vars{,.*}:
     + add OOO_ICONS_VER variable [MK]
     + Use patchset OOO_1_1_0 [CH]
     + Add ARCH_PREFIX for build commands to be run using 'sparc32' on
       sparc [CH]
     + disable mozilla for all archs !i386 [CH, RE]
   * debian/setperms:
     + add xcftobmp [RE]
Files: 
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openoffice.org-gnome_1.1.0-1_i386.deb
 057b0b22c10517306606f1f4fe59fc77 2579370 contrib/editors optional 
openoffice.org-l10n-sk_1.1.0-1_all.deb
 245bffa827337979759c3ea4689fac9a 44526756 contrib/editors optional 
openoffice.org-bin_1.1.0-1_i386.deb
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openoffice.org-l10n-ja_1.1.0-1_all.deb
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openoffice.org-l10n-pl_1.1.0-1_all.deb
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openoffice.org-l10n-ko_1.1.0-1_all.deb
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openoffice.org-l10n-de_1.1.0-1_all.deb
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openoffice.org_1.1.0.orig.tar.gz
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openoffice.org-l10n-en_1.1.0-1_all.deb
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openoffice.org-l10n-nl_1.1.0-1_all.deb
 50ee6dea49b38ee98d732bb27a0f51b6 101934 contrib/utils optional 
openoffice.org-crashrep_1.1.0-1_i386.deb
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openoffice.org-l10n-pt-br_1.1.0-1_all.deb
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openoffice.org_1.1.0-1.diff.gz
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openoffice.org-l10n-ru_1.1.0-1_all.deb
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openoffice.org-l10n-cs_1.1.0-1_all.deb
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openoffice.org-l10n-da_1.1.0-1_all.deb
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openoffice.org-l10n-it_1.1.0-1_all.deb
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openoffice.org-l10n-es_1.1.0-1_all.deb
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openoffice.org-l10n-ar_1.1.0-1_all.deb
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openoffice.org-l10n-tr_1.1.0-1_all.deb
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openoffice.org-mimelnk_1.1.0-1_all.deb
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openoffice.org-l10n-sv_1.1.0-1_all.deb
 b41ee7ef8e1f2be629618df77c18430b 3532570 contrib/editors optional 
openoffice.org-l10n-zh-cn_1.1.0-1_all.deb
 b5acfbfc9f8fb322ed55b97513225e2d 2628840 contrib/editors optional 
openoffice.org-l10n-fi_1.1.0-1_all.deb
 d209f6dd3e6e0bfd5f64584e2b801068 3458076 contrib/editors optional 
openoffice.org-l10n-fr_1.1.0-1_all.deb
 de3cefc8743dde1c1f121318a15763a8 1972 contrib/editors optional 
openoffice.org_1.1.0-1.dsc
 deeec466c0f8d8c61785fb5670334a87 3124408 contrib/editors optional 
openoffice.org-l10n-pt_1.1.0-1_all.deb
 e3a12be6baba2708ed3bc4e14942a937 2647524 contrib/editors optional 
openoffice.org-l10n-ca_1.1.0-1_all.deb
 eb4950bbadd722de1d7a0d85fac24a67 2695220 contrib/editors optional 
openoffice.org-l10n-el_1.1.0-1_all.deb
 ee1f33611f81b05ab23a7098d09d1ed9 11926458 contrib/editors optional 
openoffice.org_1.1.0-1_all.deb
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