On 24 Mar 2006, Miles Bader said: > 2006/3/25, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Well, users, and developers, who disagree with our principles can >> still get the non-fee documentation by adding one line to their apt >> sources list. If you, as a developer or a user, think the docs are >> free, why should you care how debian has classified it? You can >> still get it on your box. So the interests of users and developers >> who disagree with debian are not being catered to is an argument >> that does not fly. > > I think one complaint is that many debian users want to avoid what > they consider non-free stuff. Previously this was simple, if their > idea of "non-free" corresponded with Debian's: they could just not > have non-free in their sources.list. However now, it will be > harder, because Debian is going to group desirable "free" (from the > user's viewpoint, not debian's) stuff together with undesirable > "really non-free" stuff.
In other words, people are complaining that Debian developers views do not coincide with their own? I find this is an untenable position to hold. Is it not a kind of intellectual tyranny to demand that the views that Debian holds on what is deemed free must conform, sheep-like, to the views on that topic held by other people? And to chastise us for, heaven forbid, having an independent opinion? Indeed, if all this brouhaha is people complaining that Debian's views are inconsistent with Right Think, I guess I disagree with the ministry of truth and refuse to engage in New Speak. Debian has made a choice. It was one arrived at after 3 years of debate, and thought. It was not made lightly, and not without soul searching. It has been made, not by whimsy of a figurehead, but by considered input from all active members of the project. While my views were not exactly the position that was selected by the project, I am going to abide by it. I am sorry (well, a little bit) if this offends y'all. manoj -- Taxes, n.: Of life's two certainties, the only one for which you can get an extension. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]