>>>>> "Jan" == Jan Vroonhof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Jan> [Please CC I'm not subscribed] Ok. We've a new list also; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perhaps others of the XEmacs Beta crew would be interested in being allowed to subscribe? (I believe it will be archived and readable via the WWW also. Hope that's true...) >> James LewisMoss has offered me the maintainership of the Debian >> XEmacs packages, and I have accepted. I'm learning how the >> XEmacs21 Jan> Well, congratulations Thank you. I recognize your name from the `xemacs-beta' list. Good to see you in `debian-devel'... I'm looking forward to reading your input in the `xemacs-emacsen' list, if you've time for it and are interested in helping out with feedback and ideas. Jan> - I changed the startups so that the init file is no longer Jan> called "~/.emacs", it's in "~/.xemacs/init.el". The options Jan> saved by the Jan> PLEASE DON'T DO THIS! Jan> It is very likely XEmacs will move to that sooner or Jan> later. If other people start doing this in their own way it Jan> will make the transition nightmare even worse. I think we need to move to this now, before `potato' is released, and before I upload the XEmacs packages I've begun working on. (Inherited from James LewisMoss) It will be much simpler for people to have a separate startup set for each of the emacsen than to have to go and write conditional code into their .emacs files. Many users will be newbies who don't have a clue what .emacs really is. They are migraining from <OTHEROS> and expect the GUI to do it all for them... We need to cater to that a little bit. Jan> - I'll try and make it so that these libraries of lisp and Jan> XEmacs itself can be built using a CVS checkout from the Jan> cvs.xemacs.org repository. I want it to be very automatic Jan> and easy to reproduce. I want tuition for fall term. Jan> If you want you can probably get the debian specific stuff in Jan> the xemacs.org repository too. That would be best. Will someone manage the commits from my patch submissions, until I am trusted to have writes? Hmmm... Perhaps the `debian' control directory will work as a separate module anyway. I'll toy with that in my sandbox (backups 4 times a day) for a while and see how that might work. Jan> - I've got a simple shell script I call `xg' (pasted from a Jan> mailing Jan> list message) that checks for a running "gnuserv" by using Jan> `fuser', and if it finds you've got one running, execs Jan> `gnuclient "$@"', Jan> Please refer to "etc/editclient.sh" from the XEmacs Jan> distribution which is an even better solution to this Jan> problem. Ok... didn't see that before. Jan> - I made a `.kdelnk' for `xg', and some XEmacs icons, Jan> If you finish this and you do it for editclient.sh, could you Jan> submit it for inclusion in the main XEmacs distribution. I'll mail it to the patch bot.