Dear Joost, I am sorry for the "tone". It wasn't against "Debian". It is only because of Upstream. And I think this is a problem with my none-native-english, too.
> please do submit a bug for that package. I did for all the points. > > > A nice to have (for me a must have) would be that upstream have to > > > provide a manpage. > > Yup, we agree. "Each program, utility, and function should have an > associated manual page included in the same package." > https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-docs.html#s12.1 . If a > manpage is lacking, please report that as a bug. This doesn't point out who should provide the documentation. And that is the point I want to bring up here. But of course I know this won't change in the near feature. I just want to discuss about it and learn from the Debian-oids. :) e.g. The manpage of "libnotify" was written by debian-people. It is debian-specific. In the upstream (gnome) source there is no manpage. In my opinion, some people didn't checked very well while the contribution process: 1. Someone contributed libnotify code to gnome. Someone accepted that code but didn't take care about that there was no documentation. 2. Someone accepted libnotify as a debian package. She/he found out that there is no manpage, wrote one and did work upstream should have made. to 1. I would never accept code without documentation in a project. Here I don't have to explain how much workload undocumented code produce while the lifetime of a software project. This is not about saying "No" to the contributing person. It is about taking she/him by her/his hand and explain and show how to provide well documented code. to 2. It shouldn't not be up to debian to make the "dirty" work for other projects. I am not sure how other devs think about that but for me it would be kind of an accolade to see my own software accepted in debian. I would treat "my" debian maintainer and her/his resources with respect and write the documentation by myself. ;) > > > It should be up to the Debian staff to do the > > > documentation for upstream! > > Did you forget a "not" here? Yes, of course. ;) > One of the reasons I didn't reply earlier is the tone of your > message. You write "Debian should do this and that", This is about my English. ;) IMO Debian is big and important enough that it could have an attitude like: "We only accept your package if you document it." It means Debian could set a quality standard for packages.

