Hi Andreas,

On 01/08/25 at 08:51 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> Dormant packages BoF at DebConf
> ===============================
[...]
> 
> One point raised during the BoF was the need to better document the role
> of the Debian/ group on Salsa. Not all developers are aware that being
> part of this group allows any DD to upload packages hosted there. While
> this is already documented in the Wiki about Salsa[d05], it might be
> worth mentioning in the Developers Reference to make it more
> discoverable (patches welcome).
[...]
> [d04] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2024/12/msg00101.html
> [d05] 
> https://wiki.debian.org/Salsa/Doc#Collaborative_Maintenance:_.22Debian.22_group

Where is that (= "being part of this group allows any DD to upload
packages hosted there") documented in [d05]?  The word "upload" is
not included in the section of [d05] you link to. And my understanding
is that adding a package to the debian group on salsa says something
about who gets write access to the package repository, but nothing about
who gets to upload it -- my understanding is that normal Debian
procedures such as co-maintenance or NMU still apply.

In [d04] you write about reconsidering the default assumption of package
ownership. If you feel that package ownership is too strong in Debian,
maybe it would be better to be more explicit about how much you would
like to see it diminished, write down a proposal, and then find a way to
measure support for your ideas.

Please note that a similar initiative from a long time ago, described in
https://wiki.debian.org/LowThresholdNmu, has "If the package maintainer
or maintainer group is active, it is polite to let them have a stab at
fixing the problem first." which I believe is an important detail.

Lucas

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