Quoting Otto Kekäläinen (2025-08-17 09:54:14) > Now I am afraid that if half a dozen senior people in Debian write in > a negative tone about Merge Requests, new contributors will feel > unwelcomed, and also people doing Outreachy, GSoC and regular > mentoring will feel that their volunteer time is wasted as their > efforts to champion new contributors work gets nullified by people > expressing in various ways that MRs are a nuisance and they don't want > to have anything to do with them.
For the record, I do not write in a negative tone about Merge Requests. I encourage each package maintainer to consider if their current workflows are optimal both for themselves and for Debian, and I welcome constructive discussions on whether we as a community should expand, limit or in other ways change our package maintenance workflows. What I write in a negative tone about is what I perceive as non-constructive pressure in promoting specific workflows. No doubt some have felt unwelcome approaching packages that I am involved in maintaining, but I find it problematic that you frame it as them feeling unwelcome because of my negative attitude towards specific workflows. In my view, they feel unwelcome because of a) Debian covering a wide variety and complexity of code, and b) Debian being maintained by a large amount of volunteers with different skills and ideas of how to best solve tasks, and c) Debian allowing freedom of choice in how to solve tasks, and d) some newcomers expecting less of a), b) and/or c). Reducing my views to "in various ways" nullifying efforts of others feels like you have quite strongly misunderstood my views. > I hope the above can help you understand my viewpoint better. Likewise. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ * Sponsorship: https://ko-fi.com/drjones [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private
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