On 11/06/25 at 22:10 +0300, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > Hi! > > > > > OpenAI has an Open Source fund. Maybe Debian should apply[1] for a grant > > > > so that Debian contributors could get hands-on experience on how this > > > > could help their Debian activities? > > > > > > or maybe Debian should not. > > > > Maybe. Honestly, I don't know. > > I still think it would be a nice perk for DDs, along the other perks > listed at https://wiki.debian.org/MemberBenefits > > It is up to each DD to decide how to use the tools and services. > Personally I don't recommend using them to generate code as in the > Debian context they seem to output so much bad results, but using > LLM's for example to review code seems to be working pretty well and > is faster and cheaper than waiting for humans to review (and humans > can still review, they will just seem more polished stuff).
My experience is a bit different -- I've found it useful to treat the LLM as an inexperienced coworker: - decide on what I would like to do - ask the LLM to do it - review carefully - refine what the LLM proposes either by asking with more details, or edit directly > > (A) an "agent", that is the client software running on your machine that > > you talk with, and that interacts with your codebase (read files, make > > changes to files, run commands, create git commits, etc.). Ideally in > > some kind of sandbox and/or with permissions management. > > Examples include 'Claude Code' (works in CLI, proprietary, interacts > > only with Anthropic models), Cursor(.com) (VS Code fork, proprietary, > > interacts with either Claude* (Anthropic) or Gemini* (Google)), Codex > > CLI (free software, developed by OpenAI and focused on their models, but > > supposed to work with other providers). DebGPT fits here too (but is > > less advanced for coding tasks than Claude Code or Cursor). > > All of the above are closed-source solutions. Not Codex CLI > I have been playing > around with the fully open https://aider.chat/ for well over a year > and I would recommend it instead. I hope to some day write a blog post > about how I run it inside a container safely and how I have customized > it to give better results than what it does out-of-the-box. Right, aider.chat came up in another discussion, and looks promising. There was an ITP about it (#1082026, abandonned). Another Free Software alternative is Zed (https://github.com/zed-industries/zed), but it looks less open in the spirit than Aider. Other closed-source products are WindSurf, Augment Code. Lucas
